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Old 07-08-2019, 05:58 PM   #1
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Default does heating a tie rod for alignment make sense

I had alignment done and they also heated the tie rod.

Service guy said it had to be done for alignment
He also said is done to reduce stress on joints

Never had that done on my 1999 Saturn SL1 before.

Does this makes sense
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:04 PM   #2
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That's a new one. They're cheap. If they're not tight toss them in the trash and replace. Easy to do at alignment.

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Old 07-08-2019, 06:30 PM   #3
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Am I incorrect with ball joints containing a hard plastic socket to hold a machined ball so the two are always in contact with some grease for lubrication? Heating the ball joint may melt grease and plastic socket, deforming it prematurely. Perhaps heating meant to loosen to the lockout?
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:47 PM   #4
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Default Re: does heating a tie rod for alignment make sense

I think the OP said the tie-rod was heated, not the tie-rod end.

Regardless, heating suspension parts for any reason should not be necessary; and would worry me. How hot did they get it, enough to weaken it? There is no way to tell now without getting a bunch of hardness tests on it.
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That rod is not hardened.
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:20 PM   #6
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Do you mean heat-treated? So what, it probably is cold-worked, but maybe not anymore where it was heated.
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Default Re: does heating a tie rod for alignment make sense

I am in central florida.

it just makes me suspicious of the place that did the alignment since I never heard of it. I don't know exactly what "heated tie rod" really means.

they found my front left wheel bearing defective ... I haven't fixed it yet but need to tomorrow I notice it correlates with symptoms of increasing noise as speed increases so assume what they say is true being suspicious of the place makes me wonder if they damaged it i'm taking long trip to maine so want to make sure car is in good enough shape
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They used heat so they could get the TIE ROD end jam nut backed off and adjust the toe. This is a standard procedure for convincing a stuck jam nut to release.
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OK Thank you OldNuc
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I had alignment done and they also heated the tie rod.

Service guy said it had to be done for alignment
He also said is done to reduce stress on joints

Never had that done on my 1999 Saturn SL1 before.

Does this makes sense
Translation: "Your outer tie rod and the respective threads were seized and they had to heat the tie rod end in order to get the alignment within O.E. Specifications."

Tie rod and the shaft are both steel, and the rust over time. This causes the tie rod to seize, hence why they had to heat the shaft.
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