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Old 10-23-2015, 08:39 PM   #1
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into reverse (SL2 automatic) which entailed leaving the car idling in gear against a wall for 15 minutes, but I can't remember WHICH gear it was to be left in (2nd, 3rd, or reverse?) & if it should be in 2wheel drive or 4! Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
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into reverse (SL2 automatic) which entailed leaving the car idling in gear against a wall for 15 minutes, but I can't remember WHICH gear it was to be left in (2nd, 3rd, or reverse?) & if it should be in 2wheel drive or 4! Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
You have a 4WD SL2?????
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which entailed ... it should be in 2wheel drive or 4! Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
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into reverse (SL2 automatic) which entailed leaving the car idling in gear against a wall for 15 minutes, but I can't remember WHICH gear it was to be left in (2nd, 3rd, or reverse?) & if it should be in 2wheel drive or 4! Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
DOn't know about that. what about basics, like how many miles on the transmission fluid
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ANd don't forget to check the transfer case fluid and to drain it and put in new... if you have the 4wd version.
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into reverse (SL2 automatic) which entailed leaving the car idling in gear against a wall for 15 minutes, but I can't remember WHICH gear it was to be left in (2nd, 3rd, or reverse?) & if it should be in 2wheel drive or 4! Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
You lost me at "2wheel drive or 4!". If you are truly referring to a Saturn S Series then you are referring to "Wolfman's Reverse Slam Cure". Google it and you'll see the entire procedure but to answer your question it involves what you state and it is left in reverse for 15 minutes.

Saturn S Series are front wheel drive and there was never a four wheel drive S Series.
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Yes, there's a button on the dash that lets me switch between 2 & 4WD. Its also DOHC, so maybe the 4WD is peculiar to that? It has 90.000 miles on it, 2500 on the fluid (no additive) & filter, and the Wolfman fix (30 min in 4WD) didn't work for me last night. I'll try again tonight w additive, but now I'm wondering about the "transfer case" thing. Wouldn't that be done with a standard transmission fluid change?

(I'm also wondering if there's a way to delete my duplicate thread?)

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Yes, there's a button on the dash that lets me switch between 2 & 4WD.
Either you're not talking about a "Saturn" SL2 (Year?), or someone has done some serious customizing!
And I'm sure the Wolfman Cure doesn't say anything about 4WD. You do know "FWD" stands for "Front" Wheel Drive, not "Four" Wheel Drive, right?
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Wouldn't that be done with a standard transmission fluid change?
NOpe, in general, a T/case is apart from the transmission.

A picture of your 4wd selector switch would be greatly apreciated
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Yes, there's a button on the dash that lets me switch between 2 & 4WD.
It is likely that the button you are referring to is traction control which is different from 4WD. Traction control keeps your wheels from spinning in the event your front wheels loose traction. It works in conjunction with your ABS brakes.

The button will either be labeled with the "TRAC", a cross section of a tire with TC or a picture of a car with squiggly lines behind it like below. I can't recall what the first gen or third gen buttons looked like. The second gen used "TRAC"

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I guess I stand corrected, I assumed "traction control" meant it would transfer power to ANY of the wheels that wern't slipping (which was way cool!). In any event, I'm still wondering if it should be engaged or not when doing the Wolfman thing? Also, in-case it doesn't work, the next most likely cause of the problem (according to my Clymer repair manual) seems to be a maladjusted "transaxial-strut", which I gather serves as a 2nd motor-mount on some models. Does anybody know anything about this? (no more transvehicular humour required, yesterday was my Birthday!)

Finally, I'm wondering if anybody has checked-out the following lately:
VBX (Valve Body Express) at 866-243-8829 sells a rebuilt, waranteed valve body for $199 (they don't have a web site).


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Does anybody know anything about this?
Yeah - we know all about this - but you got us side-tracked with your 4WD story.
The most likely cause of harsh shifting is a bad LP Solenoid. You need to check the resistance of all 5. I just had this problem - Solenoid is $50 from Amazon - about 2 hrs work. You probably don't need a VB, but if you do, that vendor is not on our 'recommended' list.
PS - you can toss that Clymer manual.
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So your saying strut adjustment has nothing to do with it, & wether or not traction-control is engaged makes no difference in the Wolfman procedure?
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So your saying strut adjustment has nothing to do with it, & wether or not traction-control is engaged makes no difference in the Wolfman procedure?
No, and it makes no difference. Good luck with the procedure.
Btw - how about telling us what year this is, how many miles on it and any tranny service history you have?

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