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Old 07-23-2011, 02:57 AM   #1
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i have a sl2 which i have enjoyed for quite some time now, about 2 weeks ago, one of my bushings went, so i replaced it with a rebuilt one and it drove fine for a day or two. now when i shift it is super sloppy, and it has alot of play when in gear, i checked out the other bushing and it looks fine, and when i move the shift lever while in gear it moves my linkage, so i know the problem is not inside inside my center console. if anyone has any ideas, please post, thanks.
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: sloppy shifter in sl2, any ideas?

Assuming this is a manual transmission, two questions:

1) When you say "one of my bushings went" do you mean the one under the console on the passenger side? (This one is well known for being a weak point.)
2) If the answer to #1 is "yes", what did you replace it with? Some replacements are better than others.

Suggestions:
1) You may want to take the center console off again, and take a look at the new shifter bushing and see if it has any play in it.
2) Also check to make sure the cables are bolted down properly, given any opportunity to flex in the wrong spot, this could potentially cause sloppy shifting.
3) The other place that shifting gets sloppy is on top of the transmission where the cables connect. The bottom cable has the larger bushing, and that bushing has some air space in it, and tends to get soft due to the bushing itself breaking down and introducing slop into the shifting system. The air spaces in this can be filled in by removing and thoroughly degreasing the bushing, and filling in the air spaces with windo-weld, weather strip adhesive, or bits of inner tube held in with weather strip adhesive.
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:46 AM   #3
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The shifter cables themselves, may need to be replaced. If the shifter is sloppy and not moving in any gear and the bushing under the center console is fine, this may be your issue.
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Assuming this is a manual transmission, two questions:

1) When you say "one of my bushings went" do you mean the one under the console on the passenger side? (This one is well known for being a weak point.)
2) If the answer to #1 is "yes", what did you replace it with? Some replacements are better than others.

Suggestions:
1) You may want to take the center console off again, and take a look at the new shifter bushing and see if it has any play in it.
2) Also check to make sure the cables are bolted down properly, given any opportunity to flex in the wrong spot, this could potentially cause sloppy shifting.
3) The other place that shifting gets sloppy is on top of the transmission where the cables connect. The bottom cable has the larger bushing, and that bushing has some air space in it, and tends to get soft due to the bushing itself breaking down and introducing slop into the shifting system. The air spaces in this can be filled in by removing and thoroughly degreasing the bushing, and filling in the air spaces with windo-weld, weather strip adhesive, or bits of inner tube held in with weather strip adhesive.
The bushing that i replaced was the one on the passanger side, and i took the console apart again and checked it, it is holding fine, and i checked all of the bolts holding down the cables, and they are tight. is there anything else that i can check before i remove my intake manifold, or is that my only option at this point?
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The bushing that i replaced was the one on the passanger side, and i took the console apart again and checked it, it is holding fine,
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If the answer to #1 is "yes", what did you replace it with?
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