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Old 01-10-2007, 06:41 PM   #1
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I just got my '07 RL about 6 weeks ago. Last Friday I turned the key to crank it and it wouldn't start. I turned it back and tried again. It cranked but was sluggish. I took it to saturn this week. they said the battery just needed to be charged. It is still sluggish to start. My husband took it to advanced auto parts to test the battery and verify if there was a problem with it. According to the machine the batter was fine. Anyone else have this problem?

Other problems I took it in for the same day was 1. front passenger door was not aligned. When the door was closed I could stick my fingers between the door and gasket. It sounded like someone letting air out of a float when driving. 2. The gas warning light didn't work. 3. The window gasket on the front driver side rubs the window when going down(not every time). The door is fixed. not sure yet about the window but it's pretty minor.
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Could the door and the sluggish battery be connected? Was the door not shutting well enough to turn off the interior lights, therefore running down the battery?
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I just got my '07 RL about 6 weeks ago. Last Friday I turned the key to crank it and it wouldn't start. I turned it back and tried again. It cranked but was sluggish. I took it to saturn this week. they said the battery just needed to be charged. It is still sluggish to start. My husband took it to advanced auto parts to test the battery and verify if there was a problem with it. According to the machine the batter was fine. Anyone else have this problem?
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Sounds like a typical Honda 3.5 "slow cold start". I've driven many of these as demos since 2004 and once the MI winter hits the first start is always a tough one, even if I parked it in my garage overnight.
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Sounds like a typical Honda 3.5 "slow cold start". I've driven many of these as demos since 2004 and once the MI winter hits the first start is always a tough one, even if I parked it in my garage overnight.
Can't be too typical... I've never had a slow start event even if the car was outside all night. Even when the temps got down to 32F.
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i have read about the slow start problem in a Honda manual and it is listed as normal and that it's due to the emissions system. It's not supposed to do this all the time, only every once in a while...........i have only had this once or twice, that's it.
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i have read about the slow start problem in a Honda manual ......
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:13 AM   #7
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It has happened on our New RL VUE a couple of times and also on our 00 SL2 we use to have. I assumed it had something to do with the Alarm System So when it does it, I hit the Lock then the Unlock button on the Remote and it starts fine.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:33 AM   #8
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very interesting...I was about to post about the 'V-Tec slow or NO start' thing, too...my 2006 VUE RL occasionally does NOT start the first time...and when it does, it starts sluggishly...I thought there must be a problem, but from what I've read on the forum, this is 'normal'...still, I don't like it...I've driven all sorts of vehicles and always, the modern engines start on first turn of the key - except my VUE, that is! Even my trusty 1987 Fiero GT starts right off - and it's 20 years old!...

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i have read about the slow start problem in a Honda manual and it is listed as normal and that it's due to the emissions system. It's not supposed to do this all the time, only every once in a while...........i have only had this once or twice, that's it.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:22 AM   #9
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No, the door closed enough for the light to cut off. The noise was just annoying. It didn't seem to have a sluggish start when I first got it but it seems to be getting worse in my opinion. I traded an '03 VUE AWD 4cyl. in on this one and it didn't have a sluggish start but it didn't have a honda engine and trans so that might make a difference. I always have bad luck with Saturn's but keep getting them becaue it's what I like. The '03 had the sucky VTi Transmission. It went out on me after two years. They rebuilt it and less than a year later it started acting up again. Thanksgiving weekend we were out to eat and when we got in the car to leave it wouldn't go into drive, only reverse. We had it towed in and I traded it while it was in Saturn's shop. They told me they were putting a new Trans in before reselling it. It didn't matter to me that they were putting a new one in because that wouldn't fix the problem. they have to put the same kind back in it and it will eventually go out again. It's just something they didn't test long enough before using. When I took my RL to the shop on Tuesday to have all that stuff checked out they told me the '03 I had was sold to a lady without the new trans and she drove it a month before it went out on her. NOW it is getting the new transmission. Anyway, I hope my bad luck is not starting over with the new car.

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I dropped it off at Saturn again this morning. The head of the service department said he thought the start up sounded normal but said they'd check it out anyway. It seems sluggish to me pretty much every time I crank it. It also sounds rough when shutting off.

When I got home yesterday I also noticed it was making a weird noise when you shift from Park to Reverse or Reverse to Park. Anyone know if that is normal? I did not notice it doing that until last night.

They are checking both things out today. We'll see...
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Can't be too typical... I've never had a slow start event even if the car was outside all night. Even when the temps got down to 32F.
It's very typical. I'll bet I've driven 10-15 of these since 2004 for anywhere from 3-6,000 miles and everyone has had this characteristic. And every single one does on the lot when we have to move them to plow.

Remember for a lot of us 32F is very warm this time of year. Get down to single digits or below and see what the thing does.

Unfortunately it's just a characteristic of the powertrain, short of an engine block heater I can't think of anything you can do to change it.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:47 PM   #12
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This is my 5th saturn and I've never had a problem with a slow start in any weather. It's been between 50 degrees and 70 degrees around here lately and it does it all the time no matter the temp. I can drive 40 miles and turn it off when I get to where I am going and then right back on again and it still does it. Sometimes worse than other times.
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I have the same problem occasionally...hot or cold temps. It started the first week I had the car...
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:00 AM   #14
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Well, I picked it up from Saturn yesterday and they couldn't find anything wrong. The service manger let me listen to his '07 VUE crank and I guess it was about the same. He said his had not cranked before too. He had never had one do that before but it seems to be normal. I guess it must have something to with it being a honda engine instead of a GM. The honda engines are supose to be better than the GM engines so maybe the sluggishness will be the only problem. If so, then I guess I can live with it. lol.
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I guess it must have something to with it being a honda engine instead of a GM. The honda engines are supose to be better than the GM engines so maybe the sluggishness will be the only problem. If so, then I guess I can live with it. lol.

You mean to tell me Honda built something that isn't perfect? Oh my, you have scarred me for life! I thought Honda and Toyota were creations of God. Honestly, the only thing I have noticed is it seems like ours cranks a few more revolutions than I would expect before it fires. My fuel injected GM engines seem to hit on the second or third revolution. The HondaVue seems to take four-six. It puts me in mind of a car thats losing a little bit of the prime in the fuel system. Of course, here in Northern Indiana, it has yet to get below 20 degrees this winter.
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Yea, that is basically what they said. it is just taking longer to fire. I hope it doesn't get worse if it gets colder.

I live in north/central Alabama and the weather has just been crazy here. It keeps going up and down. The highs have been in the 50's this week but tomorrow and Sunday it is supose to be in the 70's and then starting monday we'll be back in the 30's for highs. It's weird. I thought it's supose to winter?

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Yes I have certainly noticed the same problem, but its only once every 10-15starts or so. Temperature does not impact mine. It can happen at any temperature. Mine never started to have the ocasional sluggish stars until I install the K&N air intake. I thought it was the Mass Air Flow sensor having trouble with the new intakes performance?

Anyway it starts fine 95% of the time so I'm not worried.
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