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Old 02-09-2007, 04:33 PM   #1
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Default Not a complaint about MPG

Since most of the recent posts about gas mileage have been complaints, I figured I'd share a positive. I just completed a 160 mile road trip and even with "winter gas" and cruise set at 74mph for at least 120 of those miles, I still managed to get 27.62MPG. I'd better not tell my Dad, he recently had a whopping 14.3MPG (all city) in his AWD V6.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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Welcome to the 2.2 reality club. My 2005 FWD Automatic is having no problem averaging in the 20's (mixed 80% city) even with remote start warmups.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:47 PM   #3
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On my 2006 FWD V6 I'm getting 19-20 (pure city driving) and about 24(mixed hwy/city). I assume I'd get about 27 (all hwy). I can't complain at all. I 'm getting about 3-4 MPG worse then my 2003 FWD 5-speed, but for the difference in power it's well worth it.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:53 PM   #4
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In most all cases the V6 will give better highway mileage than the I4. Every time I fill the tank the mpg rises. My city average is 18.48 all stop and go city driving.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:22 PM   #5
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In most all cases the V6 will give better highway mileage than the I4. Every time I fill the tank the mpg rises. My city average is 18.48 all stop and go city driving.
I'm not sure if they changed the final gear ratio in the i4 autos throughout the years, but when I am cruising along at 65mph @2100rpm (or 60mph@2000rpm), that is hard to beat....so there!
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:46 AM   #6
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I do find it interesting (irritating?) that everytime a 2.2L owner posts his fuel economy, that post is invariably followed up by a dozen or so V6 owners posting theirs. (Ecotec envy?)

Oh yeah, well my payments are lower (with zero down) and so are my greenhouse gas emissions while I'm getting 20's....

And yes, the I4 (non-VTi) automatics do pull MUCH lower RPMs at highway speeds than the 5 spds do.
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I do find it interesting (irritating?) that everytime a 2.2L owner posts his fuel economy, that post is invariably followed up by a dozen or so V6 owners posting theirs. (Ecotec envy?)

Oh yeah, well my payments are lower (with zero down) and so are my greenhouse gas emissions while I'm getting 20's....

And yes, the I4 (non-VTi) automatics do pull MUCH lower RPMs at highway speeds than the 5 spds do.
Interesting trend... I'll be less predictable in the future...

My payment may be higher, but the Honda engine is a ULEV powerplant. It's possibly greener to the enviroment than the Ecotec...

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Old 02-10-2007, 08:30 AM   #8
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I just got a new 2007 2.2 w/manual. How long does it take for the engine to loosen up and start getting better gas mileage?
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:42 AM   #9
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I just got a new 2007 2.2 w/manual. How long does it take for the engine to loosen up and start getting better gas mileage?
I really didn't notice my milage to start out with. I was tromping the gas and rowing the stick with grins from ear to ear......

Hopefully my next comment won't start a new thread....

Once you get past your first oil change, you may see a difference. Don't know how much? And depends on your driving habits.

Seen others that keep track with a Scangauge II. (correct me if I'm wrong) Seems like a nice little tool to help monitor your mpg.
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Old 02-10-2007, 03:15 PM   #10
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I just got a new 2007 2.2 w/manual. How long does it take for the engine to loosen up and start getting better gas mileage?
The very first fill-up on my VUE was 25.99MPG. 13,286 miles later, my last fill-up was 27.62. I have not noticed any change in my mileage at all, it has been very consistent. You may want to experiment with different gas brands, I have found my VUE to be very selective.

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In most all cases the V6 will give better highway mileage than the I4.
I'll gladly risk the possibility of getting the same highway mileage as the V6, because I know that I can easily pull off 25MPG in the city and that is where most of my driving occurs.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:46 PM   #11
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I just got a new 2007 2.2 w/manual. How long does it take for the engine to loosen up and start getting better gas mileage?
I didn't see much of a gain after "the breakin period." Possibly because I babied it for the first 1000 miles and got around 24 highway. After first 1000 miles, I drive it normally, (3/4 floored to full throttle getting on and off highways (A must in NJ.) I still get about 24 highway. If I went back to babying it, I might average 25.

Others have posted that they did see a gain after a few thousand miles though. What kind of mileage are you getting and what type of driving?
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I just got a new 2007 2.2 w/manual. How long does it take for the engine to loosen up and start getting better gas mileage?
Like pdough, I babied mine in the begginning, and got around 24-25....now that it is broken in, I get lower mpg (lead foot syndrome)....I did notice that the engine does break-in, if by only the reduction in vibration...smoother running now than when I first had him....one time I will aim to get great mpg on a fill-up, it's just that I tool around town in stop-and-go traffic....took me 20+ minutes to go maybe 3-4 miles yesterday....not going to get good gas mileage whatever I do.....
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Old 02-11-2007, 05:00 PM   #13
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The thing I noticed with my AWD V6 is how low the rpms are when I'm cruising on the freeway. I had a Scion xB with a 5-speed that I traded in on my VUE, and that thing would be pulling 3000 rpms at 60 mph. In my VUE, I'm pulling less than 1500 rpms at 60 mph. The cruise control helps with the overall mpg rating I'm sure, but I haven't done a long enough highway trip to get any kind of meaningful mpg averages. I'm due for one though, and with the K&N CAI and 255/55-18 Pirellis I'm running now, it'll be interesting to see what kind of freeway mpg I'm getting. For those with the 4-cyl, I'll bet it's a fun SUV to drive with the manual transmission. But I have plans on getting a motorcycle trailer eventually, so I wanted the V6 for towing. I guess for everyday driving the 4-cyl would be fine, but I wanted the power and torque of the V6. Absolutely no regrets yet, even with the lower mpg. That Honda powertrain ROCKS!
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:59 AM   #14
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I was glad to see our mileage increase during our road trip to Jackson, Tenn. back in December. It has continued to improve as the motor is loosening up.

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