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Old 04-11-2013, 03:20 PM   #1
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Default Well All, it's been a pleasure..

On Saturday 6 April, I traded my 2005 RL for a 2012 Equinox LTZ.

I crossed over to the Dark Side..

But, of all the forums I have been on, I have to say this one was the most informative, and most fun. I appreciate all your input and replies,
and I wish you all the best, with your RL's.
I can say that..in 204 thousand miles, my RL never let me down, left me stranded, and it looked as good when I left it behind at the dealer, as it did the day I drove it off the lot.
That proves there is much to said for the polymer body to withstand parking lot abuse, dings, road rocks, etc. and it was black so if anything it would have looked like hell, for the amount of abuse it took, over eight years.

I am truly sad to have seen Saturn the brand, go. In my experience, I found it to be trouble free, and a damn good vehicle to commute in, in some pretty nasty northeast winters.

It is still fairly quick, and the gas mileage cannot be beat for an SUV of it's size.
Could it have been more sophisticated ?, yes of course, but it served me very well, and I hope you all have the same experience.

Good Luck to you all, and Best Regards,..

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Old 04-11-2013, 08:12 PM   #2
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Best of luck with the new ride. Can I ask what they gave you for the trade in? Just wondering what they valued you at with 204k on the clock?

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I had one of those for a rental. I kinda liked it.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:29 PM   #4
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Uh...isn't the 2012 equinox the same at the latest Saturn Vue before they discontinued it???? So why are you going anywhere? Just go over to the regular Vue side, and you can still get a lot of help and suggestions I would think :-)
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The 2012 equinox is nothing like any VUE.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:01 PM   #6
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Uh...isn't the 2012 equinox the same at the latest Saturn Vue before they discontinued it???? So why are you going anywhere? Just go over to the regular Vue side, and you can still get a lot of help and suggestions I would think :-)
The Chevy Captiva is the same (basically) as the 2nd Gen Vue. The biggest difference is the Captiva uses the 3.0L V6 instead of the 3.6L. The 2nd Gen Equinox is loosely based on the 2nd Gen Vue (shares the same underlying "Theta" platform), but really shares nothing else with it. Same goes for the 2nd Gen Cadillac SRX and GMC Terrain.

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Old 04-13-2013, 12:42 PM   #7
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Uh...isn't the 2012 equinox the same at the latest Saturn Vue before they discontinued it???? So why are you going anywhere? Just go over to the regular Vue side, and you can still get a lot of help and suggestions I would think :-)
Its a newer version of the platform. It just has worse styling (IMO it looks Korean).

The Equinox, Terrain, and SRX are all Theta 2 vehicles, with the SRX claiming to be "Theta Premium". Those vehicles all have a longer wheelbase than the Vue did though.

I'm fond of the GMC Terrain, it's a handsome CUV for sure. I just wish they offered better engines.
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I'm fond of the GMC Terrain, it's a handsome CUV for sure. I just wish they offered better engines.
Not a fan of the 3.6? It's available for 2013.
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Not a fan of the 3.6? It's available for 2013.
Yup...300+hp! That will be my next used SUV once they are about 7 years old so I can see if they have a good track record like my RL
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The 2012 equinox is nothing like any VUE.
Actually it IS something like the Vue. More similarities than you may think (just well hidden) the GM guy was like "one of our better kept secrets lol). But I did mean the Captiva is pretty much the newer saturn with a different name badge :-)
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Actually it IS something like the Vue. More similarities than you may think (just well hidden) the GM guy was like "one of our better kept secrets lol). But I did mean the Captiva is pretty much the newer saturn with a different name badge :-)
The "best kept secret" part of the Vue was the Honda drivetrain. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The new Equinox is a GM, through and through. No hidden secrets about it worth getting excited about.
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change oil often (no more than every 5000 miles) imo. Also have the dealer reprogram the ECM for recall OLM.
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Actually it IS something like the Vue. More similarities than you may think (just well hidden) the GM guy was like "one of our better kept secrets lol). But I did mean the Captiva is pretty much the newer saturn with a different name badge :-)
Really? I drove one for a week once. The only VUE thing about it is that it's a FWD SUV built by GM. Mine had nicely bolstered seats, a back up camera displayed on a BIG touch screen display, a light in the center console, ascent lighting on the dash......
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:38 AM   #15
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The "best kept secret" part of the Vue was the Honda drivetrain. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The new Equinox is a GM, through and through. No hidden secrets about it worth getting excited about.
Ok..I am back for one reason. To Trash my own new car purchase!
This 2012 Equinox LTZ, top of the line loaded, leather, all the bells, cannot get out of it's own way!!.

I bought the car cause it was the only product I found that I could relate the size and amenities to my RL, I looked at the GMC Traverse, and thought, hmm..boxy..my RL blew around alot in the wind, so I figured go w the Equinox smoother, more aero...and that turns out to be true..on the highway it's quiet, cruises nicely.

But..when you are just sitting at a light...it's very Polite, ie...Everybody else goes first!!, cause this thing cannot move it's own ass..as it weighs 2 tons.
and only has 222 lb.ft. of torque. it has a funky 6 speed you can electronically "manually" shift, but even that..just causes the engine to rev way the hell out to 5500, and then slams between gears...so this junk, will be in my stable for about a year and I will be looking for another SUV.

Once you guys lose that RL's excellent Honda V6..you are going to miss it..
first hand experience, cause an RL would blow this things doors into the weeds, so..what am I saying..? Man, I miss my Plastic Fantastic !!!

I am thinking of trading in the wife's Accord on an 06 RL and let her drive the damn sled Equinox..just so I can move in traffic the way my 05 RL did.


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Really? The Equinox I had as a rental was smoking anything off the line around Norfolk, VA. Had to of been the V6 too (although I never popped the hood). But I'm also coming from nearly 6000 feet, so my 4 cylinder VUE would feel sporty to me at sea level. But I was still beating all the other traffic.

Is yours brand new? Maybe the motor will loosen up as it breaks in.
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I think the Equinox is quite a bit heavier than the VUE at over 3700 lbs.

I know it is about 6 inches longer, but I wonder how much the all steel body has to do with the weight.

Now that fuel is getting so high and the government is pushing higher fuel economy requirements, I wonder why they don't go back to the plastic panels.
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When I took the door apart on my '92 SC, the plastic outer door panel was surprisingly heavy.
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The "best kept secret" part of the Vue was the Honda drivetrain. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The new Equinox is a GM, through and through. No hidden secrets about it worth getting excited about.
I agree...but what I meant was that people can tell from the outside that the Captiva is the more recent Vue with a different name badge, but not many people know that the Equinox has almost just as many similarities but a different shell.
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Really? The Equinox I had as a rental was smoking anything off the line around Norfolk, VA. Had to of been the V6 too (although I never popped the hood). But I'm also coming from nearly 6000 feet, so my 4 cylinder VUE would feel sporty to me at sea level. But I was still beating all the other traffic.

Is yours brand new? Maybe the motor will loosen up as it breaks in.
Haha, you answered your own question as to why you were smoking anything off the line :-). That is one of the best things I like about this honda engine...quick and responsive. 2.2L vs 3.5L
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