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Old 08-14-2015, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement

My ignition lock cylinder has been giving me trouble for a long time. The key stick and grabs going in and out. I've tried lubing it and getting a new key without any noticeable difference.
I'm going to order a new AC Delco cylinder (with key). I'm not concerned about having a different door and ignition key at this point in the vehicles life. I figured it was easier to get a built-up unit with key ready to install vs. the type that you have to match up to your original key.
Any tips on removing and replacing this thing?
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement

I had to have my 2002 SL1 re-keyed, ignition, doors, and trunk. I took it to the stealership and out the door it cost me $700, but that was mostly because my vehicle had been stolen and the ignition cylinder was damaged and required replacement. I did get two brand new original black plastic Saturn keys out of it though lol.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:21 PM   #3
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Yikes...!
New lock cylinder is around $20.00 at the local auto parts store (have to order) and doesn't look to hard to install...
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A Richpin video...this will guide you through it. IMHO Richpin deserves a medal for his help videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt8wnj4qHoc
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:32 AM   #5
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Thanks. Looks simple enough...
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:36 PM   #6
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Any recommendations on a decent replacement lock cylinder? I tried to get an AC Delco unit from O'Reilly's but they are having trouble getting it...
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:50 AM   #7
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Have you tried cleaning the cylinder? Richpin has a video on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iLPpXVElU0
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Old 08-19-2015, 05:59 PM   #8
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I thought about trying to clean it but I decided that if I'm going to go to the trouble of removing the lock cylinder, I'll just replace it. They don't cost that much.
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:53 AM   #9
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RockAuto for '98 SW2: AIRTEX / WELLS 4H1111 ca$39+ship

item doesn't include key , so will need visit to locksmith...

Strongly suggest liberal application of good grease prior initial use.

Maybe also check the steering wheel interlock as source of friction --
-- perhaps something binding there more than 'normal' ... .
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My son's L300 we just bought began sticking on the ignition lock. One look at the key told us how worn everything was. I priced out online and at the dealerships for an uncoded lock. There was little difference in price. An uncoded lock then has to be coded and I wanted the code to be the same as the door locks to avoid have multiple keys. I priced the dealer price against a locksmith charge (and not every locksmith does ignition locks) and again there was little difference in cost.
I took it to the dealers to be sorted. I left it to the dealer to remove the lock from the vehicle and I paid for that privilege. The new key was an eye watering $37.00 from the dealer, so I had another cut at a locksmith for $7.00 and the expensive one will sit as the spare. The dealer also gave me the keycode for the car as well.
Unless you have time on your hands, I would get the new lock from the dealers, have them code it and refit it yourself.
On a final note DO NOT stick grease in the lock. Use powdered graphite.
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:47 PM   #11
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The new key was an eye watering $37.00 from the dealer, so I had another cut at a locksmith for $7.00 and the expensive one will sit as the spare.
Yes, and that is 90s technology. I've stopped using my remote and just lock/unlock doors by hand. Remote still works, but why bother. The technology is getting costlier. My 2013 Mazda has AKE with push button start. You never have to take the key out of your pocket. Hence, you would think that you should never have to replace a Lock Cylinder, but will the push button ever wear out? What about if you lose the key? Keys and required programming (nobody has figured out how to self program these YET) is $300+ at the stealership (you might find an indy to do it for less than $200). I would still prefer to have the old fashioned manual locks, though I admit the automatic open of a door and starting of car without touching the key is easy to get used to. I actually purchased a silicone cover for my keys and put a note on each of them "REWARD: xxx-xxx-xxxx". I figure that 98% of people who find the key will actually call you and return the key instead of messing with your car.
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On a final note DO NOT stick grease in the lock. Use powdered graphite.
Totally agree. I purchased some graphite some 20 years ago to loosen up by car door lock and it worked great - amazing stuff and cheap and easy to find anywhere. I still have that tube (though I think it is almost empty now).

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One thing we have found on my sons S series is the cheapo door lock switches. As you know they are 'rocker switches which are positioned vertically. After a while they will lose their ability to stand up straight and gravity takes over making them 'chatter'. This is a common fault on these switches. You can still buy them at about $30+ they aren't too much of a hit. We have replaced both my son's as they were both chattering.
Out of curiosity I dismantled the switch to find out what causes the chattering.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered that instead of a spring to create the 'rock' Saturn in their desire to save nickels chose to use a piece of foam to act as the rocker. Over time this piece of foam gets flatted and lose it's springiness and hence causes the switches to make electrical contact and chatter. So if you have chattering switches and want to save a nickel in the same way that Saturn did, just replace the foam with a new piece. It should cost all of a nickel!!
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:22 AM   #13
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Default Re: Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement

Well, I struck-out trying to get a replacement lock cylinder (with key). O'Reillys, AutoZone and Advance don't carry it and can't get it despite the fact that two of these stores show the lock cylinder available and in-stock in their stores...
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I replaced the lock cylinder in my 99 SL with LC13590 from Advance Auto. Their parts finder at the time indicated it was not a match but fortunately some comments referenced the SL so I gave it a try. It installed easily once my 7/32 nut driver arrived from Amazon. Still working fine, been well over a year now. It comes with a key so you'll end up with two keys (one for the door, one for the ignition).

Thought this might help. Good luck...
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I just found some on ebay for a 98 SW2. Not sure what is so different about the year 1998 vs other years and SW2 vs the others but I don't want to take a chance and rip the old one out only to find I bought the wrong year part number.
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Incidentally, all of these parts are always listed as for "Base model". My SW2 isn't a "Base model". Does this make any difference?
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IMHO just bite the bullet and contact the GM dealer. You can still get the locks and they are not as expensive as you might think from the main dealer.
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The last time I went to a GM dealer after a part, I was given a dirty look and informed that they "Do not support that line of vehicle" as if it never existed...
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The last time I went to a GM dealer after a part, I was given a dirty look and informed that they "Do not support that line of vehicle" as if it never existed...
I have had cause to take both my sons Saturn's for jobs doing to the same Chevy dealer locally. I was told that they are a Regional Center down here in central Florida for Saturn parts as well. They were completely courteous to me and the Reception Technician was actually an ex-Saturn mechanic, so we had a good chin wag.

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SW2 Driver, did you try comparing the stock numbers from the ebay part against GM part numbers? One site that has excellent online parts drawings, http://parts.nalleygmc.com/ among the many with some searching. Perhaps GMpartsonline? A "professional" might use friendlier phrases like "we're sorry but we no longer support a discontinued line..." or something to the effect without giving you any clues to where to go. Perhaps those that are professional will at least suggest trying another dealer (true professionalism) or going online or using an 800 number to redirect you............

The age of friendly business discourse seems to disappear when all it takes is a little effort to promote conversations without making a customer feel awkward. Its obvious the person you spoke to wasn't as polished as he may think when handling the simplest questions.
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