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Old 09-17-2019, 10:40 AM   #1
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Default 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

Has anyone heard about a 3400 or 3800 v6 being put into a vue? Curious if it could be made to fit (I know 3400 came in the equinox of the same years).

The idea being that you get six cylinders in a format that is way more compact than the Honda v6 but still makes north of 200 horsepower and has a timing chain instead of belt.... and probably better fuel economy (and I realize that GM timing chains can be crap if you don't keep up with maintenance)

Would also be curious if it could be made to work with the Saturn 5-speed.... even though I'm sure that getrag transmission would be at the limit of what it can hold and you'd have to upgrade the clutch.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:54 PM   #2
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

...I thought about an LS motor from a monte ss or impala ss , that would be fun at a stock 300hp or so, then start bumping it up in power, I'm sure you could find a donor vehicle, online, just my .02, DC
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

I thought about the LS4 too.. only thing would be the complexity of the electronics. The idea behind the 3400 or 3800 would be that you could get something insanely cheap that you could also bolt a f40 tranny up to.

The 3400 equinox has an ECU that I think uses the same plugs as our vues so at most you'd need an engine harness but it would be relatively plug and play. The only issue would be the f40 transmission and linkages (maybe)
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:31 PM   #4
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

I saw a vw golf with a caddy north star and 4t80 trans and the hood closed. I own a 3400 nox now and kid has 3.0 vue. Never crossed my mind to put 3400 in vue. Had a Honda vue, sc Grand Prix and considered getting a SS TB. The v8 sound is nice.
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Old 09-26-2019, 02:31 AM   #5
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

The idea would be a 3400 with a stick shift for folks with ecotecs like myself. Might still throw some codes though.

Maybe even a 3800 or other pushrod v6. This wouldn't be a supercharger candidate necessarily, just extra power and reliability on the cheap in a (maybe) easy enough swap.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:13 PM   #6
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

i just meant to say almost any motor can be stuffed in any car. i have done 3 headgasket jobs on 3 different noxes. its quite easy. lots of room. i have pulled the heads on a 3.0 vue. harder than a nox as it has the ohc stuff to mess with. but you want a manual trans. which i am not fond of. i dont think a suv can be made to feel nimble as it is high center of gravity and a stick is not going to do anything about that
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

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i just meant to say almost any motor can be stuffed in any car. i have done 3 headgasket jobs on 3 different noxes. its quite easy. lots of room. i have pulled the heads on a 3.0 vue. harder than a nox as it has the ohc stuff to mess with. but you want a manual trans. which i am not fond of. i dont think a suv can be made to feel nimble as it is high center of gravity and a stick is not going to do anything about that
Yeah stick in a SUV can be strange however in my 2.2 Vue I quite like it. My Vue feels very car-like to me anyway which I think is why I like the stick shift.

The point i was trying to make was really that you'd end up with a super reliable pushrod motor and a super reliable manual transmission on top of that for very very little money
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Old 09-27-2019, 09:03 AM   #8
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

TBH, if your going to that much work, you might as build on an existing 2.2 Ecotec 5 speed Vue and supercharge or turbocharge it. If you go for a different engine, you'll need at least:


-custom motor mounts to connect the new engine/trans to the subframe
-new cables/linkage and shifter assembly to connect the shifter to the trans
-piggyback computer to work with the new engine/trans and also work with the stock computer so you can keep BCM accessories/tasks like the gauges, climate control, electric power steering, etc.
-custom CV axles with the correct length and splines, and maybe even beefed up depending how much torque the new engine puts out

Point is it'll be a ton of work vs. modifying an existing engine that came with the car. I'm not saying don't do it, but I don't want someone to go into something as big as this and then change there mind after they spent thousands.
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Old 09-27-2019, 12:40 PM   #9
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

Maybe not with the 3400 since the equinox came with a 3400... the idea being you might be able to use the 3400 equinox motor mount and a manual transmission.... and equinox engine harness and equinox ECU


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Old 01-28-2021, 11:32 PM   #10
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Default Re: 3400 or 3800 v6 in a vue?

I know this thread is old. But I had thought about the Pontiac 3800 supercharge swap. You can boost power by adding cams, rocker arms etc. I just recently got my Daughters 03' Vue that she used for college. So was thinking about doing a LS4 swap. Currently it has the 3.0 V6 which runs great. No leaks, and doesn't use any oil for over 200K miles. So was thinking about making it a project hot rod car. The LS4 motor has a lot of aftermarket power adders. Cams, rockers, heads etc. So 450-600hp would be in the making. With the car being so little weight, it would be a tire burner for sure. But I know if I ever sold the car I wouldn't get any of the money back out of it. Its a Saturn.....
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Never check this thread pile. I noticed my kids front subframe mount is kinda rusted. I considered dropping subframe to fix ac but no way now. Rust is a killer. What state are you in? An 03 vue? 18 yrs. ugh. I think her vue is on real thin ice. Might be gone soon.
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