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Old 11-16-2020, 04:22 PM   #1
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So Iím seriously contemplating picking up this Astra about 4 hours away in Massachusetts. The ďdealerĒ has it listed for just under 4 grand but after speaking through facebook he agreed on the low end of kbb, 3600.00. I told him if I made the hike up there and went through the trouble of renting a trailer, Iíll most likely being buying it. It reportedly had 57k on it, but heís been using it and said it now has about 61k. I questioned this for a while as the steering wheel and driver seat have a serious amount of wear for 60k. Also after looking at the dealers instagram, it appears they obtained the car back in August. Anyway to my surprise they gave me the vin when I asked and decided to run a carfax. It seems clean but there is a questionable mileage gap between the first and 2nd owner, most of which was not reported.

Theres also an open recall, and last reported was a loan/lien, which Iím unsure of as the car is over 11 years old.. Does any of this seem weird to you guys or am I just overreacting from being screwed by dealers in the past. Also the 3600.00 price is cash out the door. They also sent me a few videos I requested of the car running and it sounds ok, but the paint seems a bit faded and thereís a minor ding on the body line of the hatch.

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Old 11-16-2020, 04:55 PM   #2
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Also I forgot to add, it has an aftermarket sunroof which has me a little worried. However the install looks pretty clean.
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Not much of that seems odd. The open recall is most likely for the steering wheel airbag, which a local Chevy dealer handled on mine without an issue two years ago. The lien information is often murky on reports and the dealer will doubtless have a clear title. I would have thought it strange if they hadn't provided the VIN, and the negotiated price seems fair enough. If you're happy at that price, it's a low mileage find and so if you'd like an Astra it's worth the trip. Due diligence inspection before buying but if everything checks out physically then don't overthink it.

Side note: I never trust aftermarket sunroofs either. Lol
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That car has some cool Opel emblems on the hatch and grille. The XR model is fun, handles well, and has good storage. It is a 4 cylinder so fast enough but not a rocket. New this was probably around $20k. It aimed to compete with the VW Golf in the day. Can't comment on the sunroof.

From pictures nobody can make much of an analysis but I will make a few guesses. Note this is a 12 year old car selling at $3,600 so just won't be perfect.

I think the car looks clean and the price seems attractive. It has been on the market for some time but you can imagine there is not so much demand for the Astra.

I don't see the ding but at $3,600... The Astra paint is soft and not fantastic quality. We had good luck with some polishing compound and wax during a full day home washing. Looks pretty good now.

Our Astra has 80k miles and steering wheel is in similar condition. That is probably from the sun and time; hand sanitizer might accelerate the issue. So the steering wheel wear tells you nothing about mileage IMHO and I would not worry about it (buy a cover or leather strap to sew on if it bothers you).

The wheels, body and under hood look clean, especially for northeast car. The aluminum heatshield over the exhaust manifold typically is heavily pitted; I suppose it could have been detailed but is another clue on mileage.

I suppose the seat and clutch pedal look a bit beat up for this mileage but that is not much evidence tbh. The seat bolster fabric is "weak" and in a position that one could wear it quickly. You can buy a replacement seat at a junk yard.

Also, the Astra uses some European diagnosis systems. So I think rolling back the mileage in the US would take a lot of effort. Especially for a $3,600 car.

These are good little cars if you can do some DIY work at home. At this price and age, you might have some easy deferred maintenance (e.g. oil, oil filter, coolant change, air filter, cabin air filter, spark plugs, brake fluid change); those are all easy and cheap. Some clutches go around 100-120k miles. You can get virtually all the parts easily in the US. Springs and shocks are on eBay you can import and we have threads identifying what works.

We have a contemporary Honda Fit. Japanese quality and the engine and handling are a blast. But it is noisier, less comfortable, smaller, and more expensive on the used market. The Astra feels more refined, heavier, more comfortable but requires more maintenance (no worse than a VW Golf lol).
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Ok thanks, I’m feeling better about this. Only mechanical issue seems to be the tpms light, but thats an easy fix. The dent in the rear is minor, and aside from the headlights the paint doesnt seem too bad, just hazy. A little time with a buffer and it should shine. Might be taking a trip up there Saturday.
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Those headlights decent so a polish will help. We polish ours from time to time as the factory coatings were not optimal. If you want to clean the inside of the headlight lenses, there are techniques on youtube.

IIRC, the Astra TPMS is rather primitive so doesn't require a shop to pair the sensors. The batteries last a long time on these. Regardless, before doing anything this might actually be low air; fill tires per sticker on door jam then drive a few miles; TPMS sensor might turn off.

I see the dent now.
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