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Old 03-12-2017, 04:00 AM   #1
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Default R.I.P. My Satty. 45mph side collision

Had a rough day this last Wednesday. New Mercedes blew a red light and hit me in the drivers side front fender doing about 45mph. I'm a bit beat up and I'm having a lot of pain from my shoulder hit the b-pillar. Should take a week or 2 to heal up and settle down.

Could have been much worse. Satty absorbed the force and crumple zones took over. Even with the hit the doors open and close smoothly. No encroachment on the passengers compartment.

Obviously not fixable. May part out or find a donor body. I'll make that call once I see if the engine survived the impact.

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So much of that s&*t going on these days (running red lights). People are so self absorbed and so self entitled they feel traffic signals are not for them but someone else. Good you're ok. Don't settle too quickly. If person had a Benz they can afford to take care of you.
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Good thing you're OK. I second that if they can afford a new Merc they can afford to get you taken care of.
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Was the person going over the speed limit? Why did they run the light?
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Texting and driving is so bad here...there is probably a pretty high possibility the Benz driver was updating their facebook status or something
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The price of the other Guy's car has no bearing on what you'll receive as compensation. Hopefully he/she is insured and don't say you'll be fine in a few weeks because you can't predict the future. Keep an eye on your injuries and keep track of medical visits. etc.
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Bummer about the car but glad you are relatively unscathed
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The price of the other Guy's car has no bearing on what you'll receive as compensation.
Especially here in MI where we have no fault insurance (your own insurance co takes care of your damages)

There's an exception for "mini tort" - OP can sue the other driver for up to $1,000 damages. These generally start out in small claims so cost to OP will be relatively low, and if MB driver has money, may not fight it
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/c...06_25091_7.pdf
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I only received $500.
The tow to my house (1/2 mile) was $150. The destroyed pumpkin muffler (less than a year old) was $300.
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I spoke with Daily Law Firm (heard on WJR) and since no one was hurt, it was not worth doing anything. A attorney there said $500 was the MiniTort.
My lower back fully recovered. Took several years. Once or twice, it took me 20 minutes to walk down the stairs. Hang in there.

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Don't be too quick to sign off. My daughter is still in physical therapy from the rear ender she had in my SL2 last September. Still cannot move her head enough to look up. If you look at my posts you'll see this was not a a terribly severe or very high speed collision. But based on the angle she was hit, how the car was "thrown" by the much heavier Jeep and the secondary collision it took to the front end as it went over a 10" high curb she got banged around pretty well. Enough that when she was unable to feel her hand and fingers the policeman on scene called for an ambulance for her even though she was only about 800' away from the E-Room entrance of the nearby hospital.
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I only received $500. . . . A attorney there said $500 was the MiniTort.
It increased from $500 to $1,000, on Oct 1, 2012. I didn't know about that (or had forgotten) until today, when I googled the amount

Back when my wife got hit in her minivan, I remember it being a smaller number so I googled to be sure.
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Glad you are OK.

If you haven't done so already you need to get checked out at the hospital or at the least with your doctor. Here in Florida, you have a fixed time line to get checked out. After that, tough!

Although you have insurance and the other driver presumably has, you need to speak with an attorney as well. Don't think your Auto Insurance company will fight your corner. I am sure the Merc driver will be lawyered up.

In this situation think about yourself and NO-ONE else.

You have lost your vehicle, you have sustained injury which, by the sounds of it you haven't done anything about getting checked out, you may be off work as a result and that could be lost wages, especially if the injury comes back to haunt you. You also have inconvenience as well as a result of this dumb and dangerous driver.

Down here in Florida, we have loads of red light runners and uninsured drivers.Cities installed red Light Camera's but they have lost law suits over the legality of them (they have a Texas company manage for them), so now they are removing them all. The red light runners must think it's Christmas!!!
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Bummer about the car but glad you are relatively unscathed Especially here in MI where we have no fault insurance (your own insurance co takes care of your damages)
And this is a worry about crossing the state line (15 min from my house) no fault is stupid as all get out....

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At least you came through it without major human damage. Cars can be replaced.
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Tough Car. She did her job as designed quite well. Took one for the team to keep my injuries to a minimum. I find out this week if my shoulder rotator cuff is torn from the impact. lots of pain still. all in all, I'm chaliking it up as fortunate. could have been a lot worse.

looks like powertrain survived. haven't decided what to do with her yet. either buy a shell with a blown motor and swap everything or part out.

Prior to my bad day, I would venture this was one of the nicest saturns in existence. She was the best of about 7 Saturn when I overhauled her.

- 60k miles on an original engine from a little old lady wreck. I had it shipped from Washington state to Detroit with 8k miles. Factory motor that burns no oil. very few of our satty's can say that.
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- converted to rear disc brake pre-98 factory reman parts.
- adapted mini cooper rims. only had to take 1 mm of hub bore out for them to fit.
- tires had less than 10k miles on them. syspension was 100% rebuilt 20k miles ago. all wheel bearings are new.
- trunk from an SL2 that happened to be the same color.
- brand new exhaust with a new CAT
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- rear view mirror from a mazda 3 with compass/temp/autodom/homelink. - that I'm keeping.
- adapted plug in harness for a 2006 Chrysler RB1 navigation head unit. I have a lifetime Sirius unit that I move around depending what car I'm driving.

if anyone near south east Michigan wants the car or any parts shoot me an email. she is in my garage chilling until if figure out what my next steps are.
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Depending on how you feel about building another one, those parts are too good to sell. There are bodies down south with zero rust anywhere, but with wrecked engines and interiors.
I just scrapped a 2002 SL1, but it was bent with a rusted body.
We're glad you're okay.
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Those look like some yummy parts.

Why not sell parts to your fellow Saturn drivers here and on craigslist or something. Electronic sensors cost a lot quite new and some people might benifet.
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Depending on how you feel about building another one, those parts are too good to sell. There are bodies down south with zero rust anywhere, but with wrecked engines and interiors. . .
We're glad you're okay.
+1, that other driver really did a number on your car.

I remember the 10th anniversary seats posts and some of the other bits.
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-Glad you survived nearly intact.--

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I've been visiting some wrecking yards lately... and finding a Lot of Saturn bodies in far superior condition to my daily driver. Interestingly , many cars do Not have the characteristic corrosion (on the passenger-side rocker panels, the subframe, headlamp brackets , etc.). And , I'm talking NewEngland cars, where about as much roadsalt is used as in the GreatLakes region. {These cars must not have been used for daily winter commute}. This week i bought a liftgate for my SW from Woonsocket R.I. (on Mass/R.I. border) that had Zero rust on the wiper shaft, and no hint of rust on the hinges.
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Generally when we suffer injuries to joints, the damage is Not so much to the muscles which activate it, as the ligaments which support, and cartilage, which both supports and cushions the joint.

The muscles have high blood supply, and are able to recover quickly, particularly with some movement/exercise; full-range-of-motion 'resistance' exercise (as light/moderate weight training) makes quick work of it.

However, if the cartilage/ligaments are deranged, and/or if the bones at the joint are damaged, the body will limit surrounding musculature, to avoid overstressing the structure. So, the key to joint healing oft involves exercise targeting the ligaments, cartilage (and maybe bone). Although muscles oft recover through Low Repetitions (10-100 movements), the ligaments require High repetitions (500 to 5000) to heal -- correspondingly, the resistance Level must be very Low (whether weights , elastic bands, etc). Professional athletes (esp football+basketball players) discovered in the 1960s that No-Load stationary bicycling heals most knee injuries.


Cartilage/ligaments do OK with just carbohydrates in diet, but, for serial damaged,older tissue, an omega-3 diet input [Flax-seed, fish oil] will improve resilience/durability of the scar tissue to OEM standards (and increase rate of healing). The omega-3 input is well-justified for healing troubling vertebral discs and knee meniscal cartilage.

Vitamin 'D' (preferably 'D-3' cholecalciferol) is known to help bone healing; it also helps soft tissue healing. Vitamin 'C' is critically important to soft tissue healing, since it is instrumental in the formation of cartilage. Bones respond to Stress... they strengthen in response to relatively static loads (as weight training) and even more to dynamic/oscillating impacts -- like walking/jogging. Mineral supplements (Mg,Ca) and quality chelated mineral supplements can help restore bones.

A very Gentle jog (just shuffling along, slower than a walk, using the calf muscles and ball-of-foot landings) can heal knee menisci, vertebral discs, and hips. Neck, and shoulder injuries, share structural aspects and both can profit from strengthening together. Swimming can resolve back and neck injuries because it allows high repetitions under No Load conditions, with the added benefit of maximal cardiovascular stimulus(breathing is Hard). The 'doggy paddle' lacks the optics of the 'butterfly', and the efficiency of the 'freestyle/crawl', but is the stroke shared by dogs, rats, cats , deer... and people !
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