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Old 01-26-2022, 11:48 PM   #1
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I had my front bumper replaced last May. The work looked good, lines tight and matched, same for the paint. The car really only looks 5 years old.

That was until this Monday. Not too far from the Apple spaceship on northbound 280 in Cupertino, a box of printer paper fell off from a pallet on a flat truck in front of me carrying the same. The prevailing speed was 55-60 and I had nowhere to go. The box took two bounces on the bed, hit the pavement and instantly split open to spilling about ten reams of legal sized printer paper, most of which went under me, lifting the car. It was a weird sensation going over this paper. It felt like the car was riding on the reams and dispensing the paper as the pile abraded with the road, leaving a pretty amazing fountain of paper shooting out behind me.

The good news: Everything is in place and I have been fortunate.

The bad news: I discovered the body shop last May did not hang on to the three bolts needed to secure the "tongue" to the subframe. Of course the subframe is machined to accept something like an M8 sized machine screw bolt, but the shop used "push" type heavy plastic inserted to hold this in place two of them are gone and the last is nearly done having integrity.

I had this morning off and cannot find this part on our ever diminishing lists residing on GM online parts sites.

On the opel.7zap.com site, what appears to be the correct part only shows up in one iteration of Astra H:

https://opel.7zap.com/en/car/a04/b/1/2-1/


Part #22 on here sounds and looks right, but is not in the ideal place to be associated with attaching this bumper piece to the subframe.

The parts are shown with two numbers, 20 02 025 and 90568791.

Please consider:

1.) Showing me an idiot by finding these parts for sale somewhere online
2.) That the part is a different number and you are sure you know the correct one

or

3.) Tell me you have three of these and are ready to mail them to me for a reasonable fee.

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Old 01-27-2022, 12:37 AM   #2
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Default Re: Looking For Bolts X3

That must have been scary; glad you are OK.

This looks like the part in the UK.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/231913573648

The description and photos might be enough for a local auto wholesaler to match. For this type of safety bolt, you can't skimp imho.

As another alternative, you could call junkyards around you (car-part.com).
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Old 01-27-2022, 09:08 PM   #3
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I had my front bumper replaced last May. The work looked good, lines tight and matched, same for the paint. The car really only looks 5 years old.

That was until this Monday. Not too far from the Apple spaceship on northbound 280 in Cupertino, a box of printer paper fell off from a pallet on a flat truck in front of me carrying the same. The prevailing speed was 55-60 and I had nowhere to go. The box took two bounces on the bed, hit the pavement and instantly split open to spilling about ten reams of legal sized printer paper, most of which went under me, lifting the car. It was a weird sensation going over this paper. It felt like the car was riding on the reams and dispensing the paper as the pile abraded with the road, leaving a pretty amazing fountain of paper shooting out behind me.

The good news: Everything is in place and I have been fortunate.

The bad news: I discovered the body shop last May did not hang on to the three bolts needed to secure the "tongue" to the subframe. Of course the subframe is machined to accept something like an M8 sized machine screw bolt, but the shop used "push" type heavy plastic inserted to hold this in place two of them are gone and the last is nearly done having integrity.

I had this morning off and cannot find this part on our ever diminishing lists residing on GM online parts sites.

On the opel.7zap.com site, what appears to be the correct part only shows up in one iteration of Astra H:

https://opel.7zap.com/en/car/a04/b/1/2-1/


Part #22 on here sounds and looks right, but is not in the ideal place to be associated with attaching this bumper piece to the subframe.

The parts are shown with two numbers, 20 02 025 and 90568791.

Please consider:

1.) Showing me an idiot by finding these parts for sale somewhere online
2.) That the part is a different number and you are sure you know the correct one

or

3.) Tell me you have three of these and are ready to mail them to me for a reasonable fee.

JFS
I suppose this is something that can be picked up off a salvage yard vehicle? Let me look at the three Astra's that are in my local salvage yard for them. I can mail them for a lot less than that guy on eBay in England. A couple of weeks ago I snagged a rear fascia and the related parts that fasten it off an XR5 that had not already been destroyed by the yard boys. Get back to me please and maybe I can look for them this weekend. It has been bitter cold here in WI the last week but Saturday it should be a whopping 22 Fahrenheit. That is as good a day as any. Hah, I keep my XE5 in the garage plugged into a battery maintainer and the block heater.
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Old 01-29-2022, 05:02 PM   #4
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I had my front bumper replaced last May. The work looked good, lines tight and matched, same for the paint. The car really only looks 5 years old.

That was until this Monday. Not too far from the Apple spaceship on northbound 280 in Cupertino, a box of printer paper fell off from a pallet on a flat truck in front of me carrying the same. The prevailing speed was 55-60 and I had nowhere to go. The box took two bounces on the bed, hit the pavement and instantly split open to spilling about ten reams of legal sized printer paper, most of which went under me, lifting the car. It was a weird sensation going over this paper. It felt like the car was riding on the reams and dispensing the paper as the pile abraded with the road, leaving a pretty amazing fountain of paper shooting out behind me.

The good news: Everything is in place and I have been fortunate.

The bad news: I discovered the body shop last May did not hang on to the three bolts needed to secure the "tongue" to the subframe. Of course the subframe is machined to accept something like an M8 sized machine screw bolt, but the shop used "push" type heavy plastic inserted to hold this in place two of them are gone and the last is nearly done having integrity.

I had this morning off and cannot find this part on our ever diminishing lists residing on GM online parts sites.

On the opel.7zap.com site, what appears to be the correct part only shows up in one iteration of Astra H:

https://opel.7zap.com/en/car/a04/b/1/2-1/


Part #22 on here sounds and looks right, but is not in the ideal place to be associated with attaching this bumper piece to the subframe.

The parts are shown with two numbers, 20 02 025 and 90568791.

Please consider:

1.) Showing me an idiot by finding these parts for sale somewhere online
2.) That the part is a different number and you are sure you know the correct one

or

3.) Tell me you have three of these and are ready to mail them to me for a reasonable fee.

JFS
I was out at the auto boneyard this morning and I do not know which bolts you need. Are they the ones that attach the steel bracket and bumper reinforcement to the unibody stub? There are four on each side mounting point. I think I know what you mean now. Send me a picture of them on the car if you could. It seams odd and reckless to me that a body shop would replace these important bolts with plastic push in fasteners.
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Old 02-01-2022, 10:57 PM   #5
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Hello PaulR,

Our front bumpers are mostly the one piece surround's with grill, fog lamp, faux and real air vent inserts.

It has a "tongue" that wraps back underneath the car where it is attached with just three bolts, M8-10 or so about 30mm long. There are threaded receptacles into the forward member of the subframe to accept these screws. A couple part depots had them, but are holding onto them to sell with the bumper.

I'm leaving California in a few days and having a shop put machine screws adjacent to these locations until I can get the regular item.

I thought I'd post this now and a picture tomorrow when I can.

Thank you for this!

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I was trying to figure out what you meant by tongue and then it became a mission to find the thread pitch for this bolt. Seems like no one lists the thread pitch because they want 5 or so bucks per bolt.

However, from this site http://oemcats.com/oem-parts/90568791.html they have the part number and when you look at the Updated Canadian part number it says that is a m8x1.25x25 bolt. That part number was also replaced by a new part number 11561969, and is found on a bunch of hood latches if you go the junkyard route. This site has a bunch of vehicles it fits including the Astra way at the bottom https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-pa...-bolt-11561969

Otherwise, if you can trust the first website, that's a Grade 8.8 bolt with a captured washer, 1.25 thread pitch, and 25mm long threaded section. So something like this is the road I would go https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...2608/204281415 for my car.

But there may be a reason they jammed those plastic retainers, like maybe the threads are damaged.
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Okay, now I get it. These three bolts are underneath to fasten the bottom of the front fascia. And they are also found on the hood latch. It looks like another junkyard trip for me this Saturday.
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I finally got to look under both of my cars front facsias and they do not use the three bolts you mention but only push-in plastic fasteners. You know the button with the flat headed pin that drives through expanding and tightens the two parts together. So the body shop may have reassembled your car correctly but without the proper or exact plastic fasteners perhaps? This must be original method since I have owned my XR3 since new and it has fewer than 20,000 miles traveled.

I guess this keeps in with the snap together fastener construction theme of the bumper covers. Other than about four screws on the corners, they are just about press on installion. Easier to assemble at the factory.
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