input shaft nut

underthehood · 11-12-2013, 08:05 AM

Just wondering, on this repair. Is a new nut absolutely necessary? If so where are they available from (besides a dealer as the closest dealer who will get me parts is 70 miles away in Madison WI) so if the nut(s) can be reused/re tightened it would be nice.
BTW gonna sell the car so if anyone wants more info shoot me a PM. It is my 2001 Sl2. Very clean, new Sonnax VB, radiator and so on. Wold be willing to sell it as is also. Just flat don't have time do deal with it so if I did not have to it might be a bonus

OldNuc · 11-12-2013, 08:17 AM

If you clean and prime the shaft and nut according to the locktite directions and use the correct number real high strength locktite you can get away with it. You will have to give it 24 hours cure time before running the car though as quick set is hard to get your hands on.

underthehood · 11-12-2013, 08:34 AM

So what is it with a new nut? Is there some kind of "locking device/substance" on it? I just quite didn't seem to understand why it just could not be re torqued is all

OldNuc · 11-12-2013, 08:43 AM

They come with a quick set locktite on them so that if you happen to stop turning it on then it locks. High strength locktite is required.

underthehood · 11-12-2013, 09:17 AM

Got it. I can get my hands on quick set at a supplier near by. So if time permits maybe I can get after it. Thanks

OldNuc · 11-12-2013, 10:57 AM

You will need cleaner and primer as well.

underthehood · 11-12-2013, 11:38 AM

One other thing. Where does one go about getting the tool to hold the housing(s)? It dawned on me they would spin without being locked in place. As for the locktite materials I have a fastenal dealer very close by and can lay hands on the stuff with them. Very good and helpful people

coolcat2 · 11-12-2013, 11:59 AM

Be VERY,VERY, careful putting that end cover back on! This is what happened to me!http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194968

Chazberry · 11-12-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by underthehood

Where does one go about getting the tool to hold the housing(s)?

http://www.saturnfans.com/classified...t/3767/cat/500

coolcat2 · 11-12-2013, 12:30 PM

I managed to wedge a Phillips screwdriver in long enough to put 111lbs torque on it. I wedged it in one of the small holes on the pulley and slowly turned it until it wedged tight. Then I torque it down!

Chazberry · 11-13-2013, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcat2

I managed to wedge a Phillips screwdriver in long enough to put 111lbs torque on it. I wedged it in one of the small holes on the pulley and slowly turned it until it wedged tight. Then I torque it down!

Be careful with this method - there have been reports of distorted Clutch Pack Drums (Plastic Torpedo's pic).

coolcat2 · 11-13-2013, 02:12 PM

That's exactly how I did mine and a couple others!

mattelderca · 11-13-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcat2

That's exactly how I did mine and a couple others!

Yes, and Chazberry is warning you and others that it is not the preferred method. There can and has been damage to the clutch pack drum. If this drum (not a pulley) is distorted even slightly it will lead to shift problems! You haven't had any shift problems, have you?

Chazberry · 11-13-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mattelderca

Yes, and Chazberry is warning you and others that it is not the preferred method. There can and has been damage to the clutch pack drum. If this drum (not a pulley) is distorted even slightly it will lead to shift problems! You haven't had any shift problems, have you?

This is the experience that brought us the Hein Tool . . .
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=157810

11-12-2013, 08:05 AM	#1
underthehood Master Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rockford IL area Posts: 2,396 1999 SL2 2004 VUE 2.2L	input shaft nut Just wondering, on this repair. Is a new nut absolutely necessary? If so where are they available from (besides a dealer as the closest dealer who will get me parts is 70 miles away in Madison WI) so if the nut(s) can be reused/re tightened it would be nice. BTW gonna sell the car so if anyone wants more info shoot me a PM. It is my 2001 Sl2. Very clean, new Sonnax VB, radiator and so on. Wold be willing to sell it as is also. Just flat don't have time do deal with it so if I did not have to it might be a bonus ... 2006 Toyota Highlander (rare 4 cyl AWD) 2001 Toyota Highlander V6 AWD creampuff Daughter got her own! 2005 Lexus ES330 Dream Ride

11-12-2013, 08:17 AM	#2
OldNuc Super Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Far Southwestern Iowa Posts: 66,694 OldNuc's Photos 1998 SC2	Re: input shaft nut If you clean and prime the shaft and nut according to the locktite directions and use the correct number real high strength locktite you can get away with it. You will have to give it 24 hours cure time before running the car though as quick set is hard to get your hands on.

11-12-2013, 08:34 AM	#3
underthehood Master Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rockford IL area Posts: 2,396 1999 SL2 2004 VUE 2.2L	Re: input shaft nut So what is it with a new nut? Is there some kind of "locking device/substance" on it? I just quite didn't seem to understand why it just could not be re torqued is all ... 2006 Toyota Highlander (rare 4 cyl AWD) 2001 Toyota Highlander V6 AWD creampuff Daughter got her own! 2005 Lexus ES330 Dream Ride

11-12-2013, 08:43 AM	#4
OldNuc Super Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Far Southwestern Iowa Posts: 66,694 OldNuc's Photos 1998 SC2	Re: input shaft nut They come with a quick set locktite on them so that if you happen to stop turning it on then it locks. High strength locktite is required.

11-12-2013, 09:17 AM	#5
underthehood Master Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rockford IL area Posts: 2,396 1999 SL2 2004 VUE 2.2L	Re: input shaft nut Got it. I can get my hands on quick set at a supplier near by. So if time permits maybe I can get after it. Thanks ... 2006 Toyota Highlander (rare 4 cyl AWD) 2001 Toyota Highlander V6 AWD creampuff Daughter got her own! 2005 Lexus ES330 Dream Ride

11-12-2013, 10:57 AM	#6
OldNuc Super Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Far Southwestern Iowa Posts: 66,694 OldNuc's Photos 1998 SC2	Re: input shaft nut You will need cleaner and primer as well.

11-12-2013, 11:38 AM	#7
underthehood Master Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rockford IL area Posts: 2,396 1999 SL2 2004 VUE 2.2L	Re: input shaft nut One other thing. Where does one go about getting the tool to hold the housing(s)? It dawned on me they would spin without being locked in place. As for the locktite materials I have a fastenal dealer very close by and can lay hands on the stuff with them. Very good and helpful people ... 2006 Toyota Highlander (rare 4 cyl AWD) 2001 Toyota Highlander V6 AWD creampuff Daughter got her own! 2005 Lexus ES330 Dream Ride

11-12-2013, 11:59 AM	#8
coolcat2 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 775 1996 SC2 2002 SL1	Re: input shaft nut Be VERY,VERY, careful putting that end cover back on! This is what happened to me!http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194968

11-12-2013, 12:30 PM	#10
coolcat2 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 775 1996 SC2 2002 SL1	Re: input shaft nut I managed to wedge a Phillips screwdriver in long enough to put 111lbs torque on it. I wedged it in one of the small holes on the pulley and slowly turned it until it wedged tight. Then I torque it down!

11-13-2013, 02:12 PM	#12
coolcat2 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 775 1996 SC2 2002 SL1	Re: input shaft nut That's exactly how I did mine and a couple others!

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