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Old 09-28-2021, 11:09 AM   #1
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Default Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

Scotty Kilmer has a video showing his diagnostic scan tool ‘resetting and balancing’ injectors: https://youtu.be/
Summary: New fuel injectors need their parameters set in the PCM using an advanced scan tool.
Is this something that would work on the S-Series?
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

Your link just goes to YouTube's home page. Try getting to the video then copy/paste the link.

In general, if the S-series or any EFI system has programming to tune individual injectors then this would be well known. I believe this isn't a fact for Saturns. Every Saturn manual doesn't have a chapter on tuning injectors using GMs scantool. Technically, every injector is manufactured using precise manufacturing and machining methods to ensure quality control for every injector, periodically replacing manufacturing parts as they wear out to maintain precision manufacturing tolerances. Assuming precision injector manufacturing eliminates any tuning because this adds to complications of programming engine computers.

I personally doubt this YouTube wonder as he's selling products to support his so called expertise. I would consider experts as ASE certified in specific areas of EFI systems, suspensions, brakes, steering, xmissions and more, depending on how extensive and knowledgeable a person is to achieve status in each area. If you've ever watched South Main Auto, the man doesn't sell products and only shows his expertise in diagnosing, troubleshooting and repairs, all in layman's terms without throwing in technical words to confuse diyers interested in how an expert can show how experience is revealed while talking/thinking out loud to convey his methods for repairs.
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

Scotty Kilmer is a lot of help on a better than than basic level and has a lot of mechanic's sense. He however is also good at self promotion and seems to be a shade tree freelance mechanic that knew the right time to jump into the youtube phenomenon. He had a Mr. Auto Mechanic gig on a local TV station prior. He's entertaining and full of knowledge but he doesn't seem to have any real Saturn S-Series awareness. I like what he does but like any human being he's not the truth on two feet.
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

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Your link just goes to YouTube's home page. Try getting to the video then copy/paste the link....
https://youtu.be/DqqW_1GGaz0

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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

It' s a Saturn.

We might not be able to balance the injectors -.

But we have no trouble balancing the checkbook....


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It' s a Saturn.

We might not be able to balance the injectors -.

But we have no trouble balancing the checkbook....


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I personally doubt this YouTube wonder as he's selling products to support his so called expertise. I would consider experts as ASE certified in specific areas of EFI systems, suspensions, brakes, steering, xmissions and more, depending on how extensive and knowledgeable a person is to achieve status in each area. If you've ever watched South Main Auto, the man doesn't sell products and only shows his expertise in diagnosing, troubleshooting and repairs, all in layman's terms without throwing in technical words to confuse diyers interested in how an expert can show how experience is revealed while talking/thinking out loud to convey his methods for repairs.
I am not a fan of his over-the-top criticism of domestic brands, but I don’t think I’m the target audience. One must wear big boy pants when listening to SK
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

I watched with scepticism as Kilmer went thru his shaking videos and made at least two mistakes. First, he never reveals to the audience his scantool may or may not work on every vehicle brand and doesn't state what vehicle he's showing his ability to wander around his scantool. That's misleading to perhaps draw unsuspecting people into subscribing to his channel or calling/texting/messaging in his video to answer specific questions such as "if I buy your recommended scantool will it work on my xyz pickup truck's injectors?" Second, he mentions his scantool cannot connect to Teslas. Duh!? Maybe he doesn't know Teslas are 100% electric with zero emissions controls, making virtually every scantool made useless since Teslas aren't ICE with electronically controlled xmissions. I'm not familiar with Teslas but have viewed several Tesla repairs by Rich ..... that may have Elon Musk flipped out as this youtuber has attempted repairing totaled Teslas in hopes of resurrecting destroyed Teslas back to service. His current project was to gut A Tesla and put in a LS engine/xmission to mock Tesla.

The electronics in Tesla controlling the battery system running the motors is all new electronics unique to conventional ice vehicles so Tesla cannot adopt OBDII comms to look at data since an ice engine doesn't exist. Abs, traction control, are probably vastly different in programming and may require a different comm setup unrelated to OBDII. Kilmer doesn't mention this at all and has a beef with his inability to see Tesla data. Perhaps an example of old school mentality unable to grasp evs with maybe a whole new on board diagnostic system that had to be invented. I have no idea but would know as soon as I buy any ev. Whether Teslas have factory service manuals available to owners, I don't know. With ice vehicles, service manuals answer all questions. Kilmer doesn't address these subtle differences like Saturns not having the ability to tune injectors.
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

Last/only time I watched Kilmer I got serious 2am Infomercial vibes and haven't been back.

The posted idea about using the PCM to balance the injectors seems sound, but IMO you'd need a wide-band O2 sensor to even start to do a decent job of it and the S-Series does not have one.

Even when you can use the PCM to balance the injectors, it won't fix an injector that isn't flowing as much as it should, it'll just bring the others down to the bad one's level. Kinda like your Doctor saying "Oh, you have a broken finger? Lets break the others so they're all working the same" rather than doing anything to fix the 1 broken one...
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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

I really doubt such operation could be done on such a basic old car.

In my opinion Scotty is the one that needs to be balanced because he's yelling nonsense 9 times out of 10.

Scotty beats the crap out of a never maintained S-Series: "Those cars are all junk"

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Default Re: Balancing Fuel Injectors? Scotty Kilmer

I only saw one of his videos, where he trashed the S series. That was enough.
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