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Old 12-27-2017, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default Wrapping up clutch and tranny project

Found a foreign car mech who will install the new pilot bearing and shaft. Explained the details, he understands.

For the following bolts, do you install: dry, lightly oiled, with never-seize, with threadlocker?

Flywheel to crankshaft
bell housing to engine
8mm bolts holding the tranny case sections together


When installing tranny pieces with gaskets, do you use any sealant or just bolt down (shift tower and end cover)
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You lost me on the foreign car mechanic. Where was he from?

I put all those bolts and gaskets on dry.
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Found a foreign car mech who will install the new pilot bearing and shaft. Explained the details, he understands.

For the following bolts, do you install: dry, lightly oiled, with never-seize, with threadlocker?

Flywheel to crankshaft __Locktite
bell housing to engine ___Locktite
8mm bolts holding the tranny case sections together___Lubed with ATF


When installing tranny pieces with gaskets, do you use any sealant or just bolt down (shift tower and end cover)__No sealant, install dry, there is only 1 for the selector tower.
Finding someone who will change that front bearing is good BUT that Locktite 620 is critical or the bearing assembly will walk out.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:02 AM   #4
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Yes sir, I explained the Loctite 620 and how the alum. case is fragile and how heat is needed to remove old shaft. He is familiar with the procedure.

Small shop, background in MB and Volvo and other over-engineered nightmares. He understands the concept with my Saturn

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That should cover it all then.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:18 PM   #6
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Next, the AXLE SEALS.

From Haynes, it looks like you carefully pry out old ones, tap in new ones, maybe with help of a tool from AAP? Or do you press them out and in.

Any sealant required?
The new ones are Timkens from RA.

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I had my case split when I replaced them. I drove them out, flipped the case over, drove the new one in. I made a tool to drive them using a roll of flashing. I used no sealant. There are pictures in my thread.

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There is a snap ring holding in the left hand seal. Supposedly the FSM wants a very small thin bead of RTV in the corner of the seat. It is not required with quality seals but if metal to metal then do the RTV. Thin-no squeeze out thin.
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PROGRESS....

Tapped out old, and installed new stronger Diff Pin. Old one was intact! 190,000 miles! A life without spinning wheels in snow, or jackrabbit starts etc.

Installed 2 axle seals. The only way I could seat the larger one was to put the case in the oven (at 175) and put the seal in the freezer. It seemed to take a tremendous amount of force to install. A really frustrating step. Yes I supported the back of the case when I set it.

Assembly tomorrow, high of 54 finally. Too cold in the garage now to think straight.
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Did you take out the wire ring before removing the old one?
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Yes, removed the large C ring before removing larger axle seal.
Had to tap around circumference of new seal, to seat the C ring.
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Just checking as the seal can be extracted without removal if it is the round wire ring type. They are easy to install if the case is on the bench in summer time. National brand does fit relatively easy.
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