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Old 10-12-2015, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default 2003 saturn ion stall issues

So the car has about 115000 miles on it it's a 2003 saturn ion was having problems wit it misfiring so replaced the spark plugs coil pack and ecm got that all installed and fixed the misfire. Now what it is doing is it runs fine idles fine but when you are in drive and come to stop will set at the light and idle fine but as soon as light turns green and I take my foot off the brake and go to give it gas it stalls out. So I put it in neutral starts right back up and I put it in drive and go but it does this usually for 5 or so times then works ok. Also does it when u go into reverse as well. I also cleaned the throttle body and the iac seemed to work when I did that but only for a little. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you
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Fuel filter ever replaced? What's fuel pressure?
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:19 AM   #3
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Fuel filter never replaced. And I don't know wat the fuel pressure is will try that and get back to ya thanks
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:36 PM   #4
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are there any error codes?
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:01 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2003 saturn ion stall issues

I'm having exactly the same issue... when I stop or reverse, it almost dies, sometimes does die. It does not do it everytime. It is random times.

Two weeks ago I had the Ignition Coil and spark plugs replaced. It fixed another issue I was having but not this one. Yesterday, the Body Control Module was replaced as that is what the mechanic said was the problem. However, today at lunch, it started doing it again... almost dying.

You do not have many responses on this issue... I'm hoping someone can help out and have possible solutions. I'm going back to the mechanics tomorrow... but have been putting a lot of money into this car lately. Not sure its worth it anymore. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 01-27-2016, 03:30 AM   #6
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What car do you have? Mileage? Auto or manual? Cleaning your throttle body and checking for vacuum leaks would be where I would start. The bcm has nothing to do with an engine stalling, fyi.
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:04 AM   #7
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Default Re: 2003 saturn ion stall issues

2004 Saturn ion 3. Automatic. 189,000 miles. Reassuring to know my mechanic is fixing things that are not broken... :-(

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Old 01-27-2016, 10:20 AM   #8
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Start with what I told you, and ditching that mechanic. ..

Sedan or Coupe?
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:03 AM   #9
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Its a coupe. I've put $800 into it in 2 weeks and its still not fixed.... just aggravating.
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I have a 2003 saturn ion 3 156,000 miles and I'm having the same problem! I've replaced the following items.
1. Fuel filter
2. Spark plugs
3. Ignition coil
4. ICM
5. Crankshaft position sensor
6. Throttle position sensor
7. Idle air control valve

Fuel pressure is a constant 52 psi.
I'm seriously at a loss and ready to pull my hair out!
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:40 PM   #11
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I have a 2003 saturn ion 3 156,000 miles and I'm having the same problem! I've replaced the following items.
1. Fuel filter
2. Spark plugs
3. Ignition coil
4. ICM
5. Crankshaft position sensor
6. Throttle position sensor
7. Idle air control valve

Fuel pressure is a constant 52 psi.
I'm seriously at a loss and ready to pull my hair out!
Any fault codes? CEL? Will it run in neutral? I wonder if the CAT could be clogged? Any exhaust work done recently?

Assuming you have an Auto?
Wait, you said TPS? 2003 is cable actuated butterfly. Check connection to MAP sensor and inspect/clean throttle body.
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Old 07-24-2016, 03:00 PM   #12
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Any fault codes? CEL? Will it run in neutral? I wonder if the CAT could be clogged? Any exhaust work done recently?

Assuming you have an Auto?
Wait, you said TPS? 2003 is cable actuated butterfly. Check connection to MAP sensor and inspect/clean throttle body.
Throttle body has been cleaned, sorry, forgot to mention that.
Fault codes are as follows:

P1779
P1781
P1791
P0700
P1584
P1599

It stalls randomly, no pattern. I thought about the CAT but it stalls when it's cold too.
It is an auto. It will start immediately after it stalls. MAP sensor and O2 sensors are the only sensors other than the coolant temperature sensor that I haven't changed out. No exhaust work recently.
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Throttle body has been cleaned, sorry, forgot to mention that.
Fault codes are as follows:

P1779
P1781
P1791
P0700
P1584
P1599

It stalls randomly, no pattern. I thought about the CAT but it stalls when it's cold too.
It is an auto. It will start immediately after it stalls. MAP sensor and O2 sensors are the only sensors other than the coolant temperature sensor that I haven't changed out. No exhaust work recently.

I was going to point you in this direction anyway, your fault codes verify that you have an issue with your TCM. I googled this, I verified most of your codes, most pointing to a Transmission Control Module. Being that you have changed most of the important parts, I would start there. Do a search on here before replacing.

http://upkeep.us/OBDII/OBD2/GMC/Gene...t.php?art=5259

Were the codes always there?
If so, you spent some money replacing parts that did not need replacing. Most local parts stores will read codes for free, although I did recently find that Advance Auto parts has stopped that, (Corporation decision) Maybe they blew up too many computers!!!
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Sorry, It's more commonly called PCM. Powertrain......
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Old 10-09-2018, 04:04 PM   #15
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Default Re: 2003 saturn ion stall issues

I'm having the exact same issue with my Automatic 2004 Saturn Ion 2.2 Echotec. The car will start up and run fine and will only stall or near stall when accelerating from a dead stop in Drive or Reverse. The car will turn off and I'll turn it back on and drive away. My mechanic cannot figure out how to fix it. From this thread it seems that replacing the PCM is the way to go or am I mistaken. Did anyone find a fix for this

Also no check engine light coming on
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ex wifes 06 vue 2.2 was doing this at stop light AC on some to stop, idle low then die start right up, I changed the belt, was really rubbery, new nice and tight, alt. runs the car after starting, fixed her problem, no more dieing after belt replacement
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My 2006 Ion started doing the same thing about a week ago. I was getting a code for running lean, so I figured it was the fuel filter. I bought a new one, but before I could replace it, I found the problem! It turns out the air intake tube clamped to the throttle body had slipped off, causing an air gap! Yeah, THAT would cause it to almost die. So I reconnected it VERY secure this time. No difference, BUT the running lean code is gone now!

As for someone who mentioned throttle position sensor, Ion's don't have them. At least the 2006 model doesn't. They use a switch in the accelerator pedal. NOT CHEAP, even on eBay!

I figured since I got the new fuel filter, I might as well put it in since nothing esle is working. But as my luck has gone with this car, I'm guessing within an hour after I replace the gas filter, I'll get a brand new trouble code!
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