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Old 09-03-2009, 07:20 PM   #1
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Ok, I've gotten the pulley and old pump out. I wound up having to move the AC compressor to get better access to the upper 3 bolts....so far haven't had a problem.....getting ready here in a bit to apply the RTV to the gasket and pump and put pump back on.......is there any time frame I have to wait before starting her back up to check for leaks or is the rtv merely to keep that little gasket on there......the way it looks it doesn't take much rtv as the gasket and groove it sits in are not very big to begin with
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I would check the label on the RTV tube.

I would let it cure for a little bit before driving around....at least a few hours. Some RTV is 24 hours.
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I was just wondering, because from wolfman's how to to other descriptions of the job on here noone mentions having to wait
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I used a Permatex product made especially for rubber gaskets (left over from my valve cover job). Set the new water pump in this miserable Alabama sun and it set in a few minutes.
I looked at moving the compressor over, decided it would be too many extra bolts to mess with, somehow I did the water pump with the compressor in place. It's a little awkward but possible.
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Slightly off topic.. Anybody know if any higher flow pumps are made for the S-series?

Something I'd consider in the future..
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You might find a smaller pulley so it turns faster?
If the rest of the cooling system was in good repair, why do you want a higher-flow pump. (I would think the weak link is the "very fine quality" plastic radiator anyway.)
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I would check the label on the RTV tube.

I would let it cure for a little bit before driving around....at least a few hours. Some RTV is 24 hours.
Absolutely not. The RTV isn't creating the seal, the gasket is. The RTV is only there to hold the gasket in place while putting the new pump in. Bolt it up, fill it with coolant, and drive away. If we had to sit and let RTV cure in the shop before we moved on to the next job we would all starve to death.
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...Bolt it up, fill it with coolant, and drive away...
Thats what I've always done... My Dad always said by the time its all put back together its dried enough. Never had a problem.
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Absolutely not. The RTV isn't creating the seal, the gasket is. The RTV is only there to hold the gasket in place while putting the new pump in. Bolt it up, fill it with coolant, and drive away. If we had to sit and let RTV cure in the shop before we moved on to the next job we would all starve to death.
I know there are different RTVs. I guess I got spoiled because the gasketmaker stuff I bought once; said it needed time to cure. I had another car to drive around in, so I let the stuff dry completely.
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If the rest of the cooling system was in good repair, why do you want a higher-flow pump.
(If available) because I can
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Why bother with RTV? I've done 4-5 water pumps without it and don't have any leaks.

My '93 cools off fast enough from ~3/4 when I "practice" 0-60's after being stuck in traffic there's no need for a high-flow pump...
If you want it to cool off faster it'd be cheaper to either put in the manual fan switch or ditch the A/C condenser.
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Why bother with RTV? I've done 4-5 water pumps without it and don't have any leaks.

My '93 cools off fast enough from ~3/4 when I "practice" 0-60's after being stuck in traffic there's no need for a high-flow pump...
If you want it to cool off faster it'd be cheaper to either put in the manual fan switch or ditch the A/C condenser.
What I actually think I need is a freaking airdam since like most older S-Series I see, the airdam is missing and probably has been for some time. My car will barely cool off down to 3/8 from half or so unless I'm doing at least 30mph for quite a while.. Not enough flow. If the fan comes on though, its fine. So at least I'm not too worried about it ever overheating. Just sometimes it sits higher on the gauge for a period of time than my SL1 ever did. (no A/C)
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Absolutely not. The RTV isn't creating the seal, the gasket is. The RTV is only there to hold the gasket in place while putting the new pump in. Bolt it up, fill it with coolant, and drive away. If we had to sit and let RTV cure in the shop before we moved on to the next job we would all starve to death.
As stated above by Squareback, the gasket is the seal. I only use RTV to hold the gasket in place while I install the water pump cover. No waiting time required.
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As stated above by Squareback, the gasket is the seal. I only use RTV to hold the gasket in place while I install the water pump cover. No waiting time required.
That is what I wound up doing, but as I couldn't get into a good position in there instead of RTV'ing the gasket to the place where it went on the engine I RTV'd it to the pump itself...for me at least it made it easier to make sure the Gasket was lined up right....this job was alot easier than I ever thought it would be....biggest pain in the ass was having to get the AC compressor out of the way to get at the last bolt to the waterpump....that thing wouldn't budge coming out of or going into the bracket....and I got to hear what was left of the freon leak out of it when I gave it a good tug....
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I've done two now. One in the middle of winter and one last week. Last one took me 2 hours, didn't remove the A/C either. I used RTV high temp, went around all the bolt holes. Put it back together, filled it up, ran it, topped it off and then drove around the block.

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I've done two now. One in the middle of winter and one last week. Last one took me 2 hours, didn't remove the A/C either. I used RTV high temp, went around all the bolt holes. Put it back together, filled it up, ran it, topped it off and then drove around the block.

My sister is driving that car to Detroit and no problems.
This one took a little more than 2 hours total, less than two if you take out the couple times I had to stop to stretch and come in and take a look at this website.....I couldn't get to the last bolt to save my life...so I had to remove the A/C
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