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Old 05-05-2021, 12:58 PM   #1
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Default What size clips hold the air dam under the radiator?

Anyone have pics of the push pins that hold the air dam on underneath the radiator? I went through the small collection I have and nothing fits, all too big.

I only just FINALLY figured out what that piece was as it was just laying in the trunk when I got the car and now I'm anxious to get it on
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Anyone have pics of the push pins that hold the air dam on underneath the radiator? I went through the small collection I have and nothing fits, all too big.

I only just FINALLY figured out what that piece was as it was just laying in the trunk when I got the car and now I'm anxious to get it on
It's actually held on with springs. GM part number 21030793. 4 springs feed through and clip together in pairs . It is #11 on this diagram and you can watch this RichPin video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQfgKW64lU

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Mine is held on with 1/4-20 screws.
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Default Re: What size clips hold the air dam under the radiator?

Springs... really? Ugh, sometimes engineers just make my brain hurt... I think I'll use a nut a bolt with some stainless fasteners.

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Springs... really? Ugh, sometimes engineers just make my brain hurt... I think I'll use a nut a bolt with some stainless fasteners.

Thanks for the info anyway!
Springs allow it to flex if you hit a curb or something. Fastening it in a fixed position risks breaking your air dam and/or the splash shields. I've used bungees in the same fashion however you need to change them periodically as they break down over time.

Mine has been sitting in the corner of the garage for several years now. It is functional on a GEN1 however not really required on the GEN2 and GEN3. The first generation was a bottom breather and without it the engine will be more prone to overheating.
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Eh, I'm one of those that hates to have parts laying around :P
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Air dam is supposed to fold up under speed....

Less wind resistance...
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Eh, I'm one of those that hates to have parts laying around :P
Ions have push pins. Yesterday, I set an Ion air dam in the Recycle Bin. It sat there all day ‘cause the recyclers are suffering covert illness.
Maybe you were thinking of Ion air dams.
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Default Re: What size clips hold the air dam under the radiator?

I meant the air deflector, the part that attaches to the air dam, but trottida got me the info I needed
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Air dam is supposed to fold up under speed....

Less wind resistance...
Is it really? might be neat to set up a GoPro to see this happening...


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Default Re: What size clips hold the air dam under the radiator?

The air dam, is really just there for air flow.

I can't tell you how many of them I removed from my cars.

Honestly- you will have better air flow for the bottom front of the engine and radiator without the air dam in place. It's really an un-needed part.

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Default Re: What size clips hold the air dam under the radiator?

lol, the way things are going right now, it might not matter either way. With the way the jetstream is, Michigan has been having some mighty strange weather (and pretty much everywhere else too). We are currently back to 30 degrees at night and 50 degrees by day.

Also, I need to replace the thermostat in the car as it isn't working properly anyway, so it's just dumping all the coolant through the system and super-cooling everything. Though, at the end of the day, I'd rather have a car that's overcooling than overheating
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Though, at the end of the day, I'd rather have a car that's overcooling than overheating
Over cooling will cause you grief in the longer run due to carbonization of the engine and exhaust components. You'll also experience poor gas mileage. When the engine temp reads cool the PCM increases fuel. Thermostats, ECTS and ECTS connector are all easy maintenance parts to replace to ensure best engine performance and longevity.
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Over cooling will cause you grief in the longer run due to carbonization of the engine and exhaust components. You'll also experience poor gas mileage. When the engine temp reads cool the PCM increases fuel. Thermostats, ECTS and ECTS connector are all easy maintenance parts to replace to ensure best engine performance and longevity.
Oh, I agree, I just mean in the case of ending up with a blown head gasket or warped head from overheating

I'm getting prepped to change the thermostat in the next day here. Just bought new coolant and already have the thermostat. Gotta turn the outside water on and start flushing!
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