Cant find BCM.. HELP!!! :)

[jdaniels]

could anyone direct me to where the BCM is located on a 1999 saturn sw1 ( station wagon) I have the thing stripped almost down to the hubcaps and I cant find it. I would really appreciate it.. Thanx in advance
JD

[madpogue]

Um, I think it's on the drawing board. AFAIK, the BCM didn't exist until 2000. Or are you getting B-codes?

[sl_don]

Originally Posted by jdaniels

could anyone direct me to where the BCM is located on a 1999 saturn sw1 ( station wagon) I have the thing stripped almost down to the hubcaps and I cant find it. I would really appreciate it.. Thanx in advance
JD

if your car has it by some chance it is located under the dash pad behind the gauge cluster

[Low Saturn]

No BCM in the 99's. Only 2000 and up.

[tarsun]

Bcm...???

[Greg1]

Body Control Module.

[TwinRevver]

Originally Posted by Greg1

Body Control Module.

For what??

[Low Saturn]

BCM Functions
The Body Control Module (BCM) performs multiple body control functions. The BCM can control devices directly connected to its outputs based on input information. The BCM evaluates this information and controls certain body control systems by commanding outputs on or off. The BCM control inputs can be:

Sensors and switches that are directly connected to the BCM
Class 2 serial data received from other control modules connected to the class 2 serial data link.
The BCM is also capable of controlling other vehicle systems that are not directly wired to the BCM. The BCM does this by sending specific messages on the class 2 serial data link. The control module capable of performing the required function will respond to the BCM message.

The BCM controls these functions:

--Audible warnings, refer to Audible Warnings Description and Operation in Instrument Panel, Gages and Console
--Automatic door locks, refer to Power Door Locks Description and Operation in Doors
--Automatic headlamp control, refer to Exterior Lighting Systems Description and Operation in Lighting Systems
--Interior lighting, refer to Interior Lighting Systems Description and Operation in Lighting Systems
--Keyless entry (AUO option), refer to Keyless Entry System Description and Operation in Keyless Entry.
--Passlock theft deterrent, refer to Vehicle Theft Deterrent (VTD) Description and Operation in Theft Deterrent.
--Retained Accessory Power (RAP), refer to Retained Accessory Power (RAP) Description and Operation in Retained Accessory Power

Serial Data Power Mode
On vehicles that have several control modules connected by serial data circuits, one module is the power mode master (PMM). On this vehicle the PMM is the Body Control Module (BCM). The BCM receives 2 signals/circuits from the ignition switch. These are the Ignition 1 and Ignition 3 signals/circuits.

Fail-safe Operation
Since the operation of the vehicle systems depends on the power mode, there is a fail-safe plan in place should the BCM fail to send a power mode message. The fail-safe plan covers modules with discrete ignition signal inputs as well as those modules using exclusively serial data control of power mode.

Serial Data Messages
The modules that depend exclusively on serial data messages for power modes stay in the state dictated by the last valid BCM message until they receive the engine status from the PCM. If the BCM fails, the modules monitor the serial data circuit for the engine run flag serial data. If the engine run flag serial data is true, indicating that the engine is running, the modules fail-safe to "Run". In this state the modules and their subsystems can support all operator requirements. If the engine run flag serial data is false, indicating that the engine is not running, the modules fail-safe to "OFF-AWAKE". In this state the modules are constantly checking for a change status message on the serial data circuits and can respond to both local inputs and serial data inputs from other modules on the vehicle.

Discrete Ignition Signals
Those modules that have discrete ignition signal inputs also remain in the state dictated by the last valid BCM message received on the serial data circuits. They then check the state of their discrete ignition input to determine the current valid state. If the discrete ignition input is active, B+, the modules will fail-safe to the "RUN" power mode. If the discrete ignition input is not active, open or 0 voltage, the modules will fail-safe to "OFF-AWAKE". In this state the modules are constantly checking for a change status message on the serial data circuits and can respond to both local inputs and serial data inputs from other modules on the vehicle.

[jdaniels]

Thanks for your help.. i must be on crack.. mileage codes are on the bcm on newer saturns so I assumed this one had a bcm. Found what i was looking for in the cluster but thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it. Now, gotta put all this crap together now lol.

JD