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Old 07-02-2009, 12:58 AM   #1
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Well, there weren't any dead bodies in this one but she was found in the far off corner of a car lot growing weeds...I knew right then it was love at first sight!
She's a 94 SW2, 117,000 miles been a motorhome Toad, and the engine a bit frumpy and the paint on the hood and front fender upper nose surfaces has been boiled away by the sun, interior is good less driver side panel (I think some mice were living in there) has an automatic that behaves it self and overall drives out nice, I'm smelling a project car.

With the cars natural low slung lines I see shades of Vega Hatchback and Monza Spyder in this and definitely a new original style hood ( I used to design, mockup and manufacture original fiberglass auto accessories) haven't done it in some time but now I can do the design and mockup work on the computer before even thinking about getting dirty.

This is going to be fun!
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:19 AM   #2
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Yay! Projects are fun!
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:59 PM   #3
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Good luck with it and don't forget to replace:

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6) if an engine rebuild is in order, don't forget to put drain holes in the pistons!
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:05 PM   #4
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Rare find indeed...

The older wagons are getting HARD to find! Especially first gen wagons.

I'm jealous.

Before I had located my Homecoming Edition...I had joked with my wife that I wanted to find a 1994 Wagon.

If I would have found one I would have currently owned all 3 trim levels in the 94 model year (Wagon, Sedan, and Coupe).

4 Saturns is enough for me (Wagon, Homecoming Edition, Sedan, and Sport Coupe)....

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:42 PM   #5
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How exactly do you put drain holes in the piston? Just drill a couple holes in it with a drill bit???
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:17 PM   #6
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How exactly do you put drain holes in the piston? Just drill a couple holes in it with a drill bit???
Other than the part where they need to be precisely sized & placed, pretty much.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:24 PM   #7
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I see, and that helps with the oil burning problem?
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:19 PM   #8
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Looks like my 1994 SW2m. Great find. If you ever decide to part with it let me know.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:26 PM   #9
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I see, and that helps with the oil burning problem?
The oil has a proper way to drain instead of being stuck in the combustion chamber...
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:07 PM   #10
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I see, and that helps with the oil burning problem?
Correct. What happens is GM was to cheap to put them in, so what happens is when the oil ring scrapes the oil off the combusion chamber walls it can't properly drain back into the oil pan. It gets stuck then the heat burns the oil coking it and thus the rings become useless, thus allowing the combustion to burn oil.

Say it costs 2 cents a hole, 2 holes a piston, 4 pistons a engine so 8 holes. So 16 cents a car. Say you made 1,000,000 cars that is 160,000 dollars. So by not drilling 2 holes in a piston you save 160,000 dollars. Thats why they didn't do it.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #11
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't burning oil contribute to more emissions? If so, how the heck did Saturns keep passing the tests in the first place
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:29 PM   #12
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Well first off they don't burn oil right away, they burn with miles and miles and finally the rings get coked and fail.

Secondly you're cat will remove it. This is what a cat does.

1. Reduction of nitrogen oxides to nitrogen and oxygen: 2NOx → xO2 + N2
2. Oxidation of carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide: 2CO + O2 → 2CO2
3. Oxidation of unburnt hydrocarbons (HC) to carbon dioxide and water: CxH2x+2 + 2xO2 → xCO2 + 2xH2O

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Alright, thanks for the info. So, put it this way: if I/someone else has blue smoke coming out the exhaust (sign of HEAVY oil burning IIRC), then there's a problem, correct?
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Well besides burning the obvious you are burning lots of oil haha, the cat doesn't remove smoke, but it should remove the chemicals within the smoke.

I am not 100% sure on that but I'm pretty sure.
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Well, there weren't any dead bodies in this one but she was found in the far off corner of a car lot growing weeds...I knew right then it was love at first sight!
She's a 94 SW2, 117,000 miles been a motorhome Toad, and the engine a bit frumpy and the paint on the hood and front fender upper nose surfaces has been boiled away by the sun, interior is good less driver side panel (I think some mice were living in there) has an automatic that behaves it self and overall drives out nice, I'm smelling a project car.

With the cars natural low slung lines I see shades of Vega Hatchback and Monza Spyder in this and definitely a new original style hood ( I used to design, mockup and manufacture original fiberglass auto accessories) haven't done it in some time but now I can do the design and mockup work on the computer before even thinking about getting dirty.

This is going to be fun!
well have fun the motor is already somewhat decent motor twin cams are always good starters
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Alright, thanks for the info. So, put it this way: if I/someone else has blue smoke coming out the exhaust (sign of HEAVY oil burning IIRC), then there's a problem, correct?
Something that ticked me off while going through emissions testing, the car belching blue or oil smoke will pass while mine that emits nothing visible but is a touch off in adjustment will fail, so I asked them why and their answer was the burning oil smoke was considere particulate mater and that was OK, just like diesel smoke, that too was ok.
So I moved to a differnet county where there are no emissions tests.

The entire reasoning made no sense.
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Something that ticked me off while going through emissions testing, the car belching blue or oil smoke will pass while mine that emits nothing visible but is a touch off in adjustment will fail, so I asked them why and their answer was the burning oil smoke was considere particulate mater and that was OK, just like diesel smoke, that too was ok.
So I moved to a differnet county where there are no emissions tests.

The entire reasoning made no sense.
so that car runs is pretty good shaape for sitting therer while, thats pretty low miles for that old of car
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Something that ticked me off while going through emissions testing, the car belching blue or oil smoke will pass while mine that emits nothing visible but is a touch off in adjustment will fail, so I asked them why and their answer was the burning oil smoke was considere particulate mater and that was OK, just like diesel smoke, that too was ok.
So I moved to a differnet county where there are no emissions tests.

The entire reasoning made no sense.
Tell me about it. But, as long as pResident BOzo, the liberals still have control over house/senate, and far left liberal land still has a right to police the US, let alone the world (when it really doesn't..) the smog tests continue, somewhat.

I've read somewhere that there unfortunately might be more consistent emissions testing all around if the liberals get their way (including ol' BOzo and CA), so too bad for us, huh

However, so far KY has managed to report that over 98% of its vehicles kept passing smog when they had to do it in '99-2005, so that's how we got freed of our hold.
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