Manual Window won't roll up---HELP

[kevinss2001]

i have a 96 sl2 and the passenger window will not roll up in its track--it goes up and down but not where it should go--I got it up by guiding and pulling to fit into where it should be--please help

[rc1488]

There is a piece of metal that holds the gears in alignment. Sometimes this metal bend back and so the gears slip. Removal of the outer panel to get access to this piece is needed. Bend it back so that the gears are aligned. Unfortunately its a tad bit harder to do then to read about how to do it

[OldNuc]

Go to the How-To Library and check the first post. There is a richpin video on how to get it all back on the track and replace any failed parts.

To find the How-To Library take the forum jump at the bottom of this page.

[kevinss2001]

thanks guys--i did watch that vid--i will pull the outer panel here in a few days and take a peek--any other tips or suggestions would help--i will let you know how i do

[kevinss2001]

Originally Posted by rc1488

There is a piece of metal that holds the gears in alignment. Sometimes this metal bend back and so the gears slip. Removal of the outer panel to get access to this piece is needed. Bend it back so that the gears are aligned. Unfortunately its a tad bit harder to do then to read about how to do it

can you just rebuy this metal piece--if so what is it called??


any other help is great!!!

[kevinss2001]

any other suggestions--I am going to tear it apart tomorrow

[kevinss2001]

ok any other thoughts on this--i am just now getting to it since all the ice and snow we have had

[kevinss2001]

ok i am working on it now--i am having a problem getting the pin out of the door hand to get the outer panel off--any suggestions????

also since i could not get that off--i took the inside door panel off because my speaker stopped working--wire came off no big deal--but i stuck my hand through where the power door lock is and there is a metal bar at the top of the door running down -- well that bar is connected at the top and not the bottom--could this be my problem?


let me know what you think and i will work on getting this pin out

[wrenchtnr]

The door handle pin is actually a pin within a pin. You must drive out the inside pin with a small thin tool, or a finishing nail with the point ground off. Just tap it thru till it comes out the back. then you can grab the remaining part with a needle nose pliers.

[kevinss2001]

i tried it and i basically broke the head off of the top pin--any other ideas

and does anyone else have an extra pin laying around--i am going to need one once i get the stupid thing off

[93SC2'in]

how the hell do you get the top metal peice with the outer window felt off on a 93? i got all the torque screws out and the handle off but this thing refuses to budge

check out here for tips on getting the handle off, and if you lose one pin you dont really have to worry the one will keep it in place just keep an eye out next time your at the junk yard for one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW0Lkh-wn_s

[kevinss2001]

okok--i finally got the outer door panel off--now i need to figure out the problem--like someone suggested earlier about a metal piece being bent--i do not see that--any other suggestions--I have to metal pieces that are connected on one end and not the other--maybe these are them--does anyone have a pic of what everything should look like--please help I do not want to spend my whole x mas break working on this car.

thanks

[kevinss2001]

i think it may be the manual window regulator--i looked at some on ebay and there is a piece of it that makes an x in the middle-well one side of the x is one piece the other side is two--my two part side looks like it is not connected in the middle like it should be, so would this be my problem--here is a link of a regulator off of ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

the piece that i am talking about are the pieces that connect to the piece labeled 2000 sl1

let me know what you think

[BarnOwl]

If you are talking about the piece that keeps the regulator in the rail, it's black plastic and it can break. I've replaced a couple. I think they are about $10 from the dealer.

[hholbein]

Maybe posting a pic on the regulator might help.

I wish you were here in Portland, because I have one of those black plastic guides I salvaged from my old (electric) window regulator a few weeks back (I would guess these are the same on the manual). The door handle pins cost me 50 cents or so from the dealer. Basically, I tried lubing the inner push pin, but it just didn't come out without the persuasive powers of a needlenose vice grip.

One word of advice on popping in or out the ball & socket joints on the regulator guide. Immerse them in some near-boiling water so the plastic is a little more pliable.

Clean all the channels and old crappy petroleum-based grease out and relube with some lighweight synthetic grease.

I posted a few notes on reinstalling all the bits of am electric window:

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=130433

Might be worth a look.

If you want that salvaged regulator guide, email me your address and I'll mail it to you. It would probably take a week to get to you though! Best of luck.

[kevinss2001]

thanks for the help guys--it is the regulator--found one on ebay for like 29 bucks shipped--pretty good deal i thought--anyway once i get the new one in I will let you know if it went ok--


My dealer does not have those push pins-they had other sizes but not what i needed--would you mind sending me one--you can send it first class in an envelope if you want. if you can send me an email at kevinss2001@hotmail.com

[hholbein]

You've got email.

[kevinss2001]

i got my regulator today and will put it in tomorrow--my old regulator looks like it has a lot of lube on the gears/teeth--should i do this to the new one?? if so any certain lube I should use??--thanks for the help

[OldNuc]

If any gear is plastic you need a plastic compatible lube. Most of the silicone greases that come in the toothpaste type tube are plastic compatible and will work. It will say so on the tube if it is plastic compatible. Regular petroleum base grease tends to make some plastic brittle.

[kevinss2001]

ok thanks a bunch--working on it right now--i am having trouble putting the window in the regulator and getting the window to line up correctly with the seals on each side of the window--any help--i can get the front and back but not both together--please help--I will be checking quickly i am in the middle of it right now