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Old 10-08-2009, 07:35 PM   #1
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i Accidently but Transmission fluid in my Clutch fluid thingamabobber.....How do i bleed the clutch fluid in a 94 saturn SL1
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no bleeding possible on the saturn clutch assembly.
i'd recommend a turkey baster, suck a few squirts out (not below the bottom of the reservoir, though) then replace with DOT3 brake fluid. repeat until it's good.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:55 PM   #4
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now, the real question, you were topping off your clutch reservoir, so clearly you'd lost fluid. where did it go?
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no bleeding possible on the saturn clutch assembly.
i'd recommend a turkey baster, suck a few squirts out (not below the bottom of the reservoir, though) then replace with DOT3 brake fluid. repeat until it's good.
A slower method is to suck small amounts into a straw and then spit it out. That's how I got rid of the oil around my spark plug!

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I'd put the cap back on, and use it anyway. If you're losing fluid, and you keep having to top it off, over time, you'll end up with good fluid in there anyway. Meanwhile, tranny fluid won't hurt anything any more than DOT3 would, and it retains the same hydraulic properties. It will also leak out faster from wherever it's leaking from, so you'll be able to notice it and possibly repair it.

You really can't bleed any part of the clutch components? What do you do when you have to replace either a slave or master cylinder?
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You really can't bleed any part of the clutch components? What do you do when you have to replace either a slave or master cylinder?
its a sealed system, i don't know the replacement procedure, but i know it's easy to screw up
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That sucks.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:24 AM   #9
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now, the real question, you were topping off your clutch reservoir, so clearly you'd lost fluid. where did it go?
i would what of happen if he drove it
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:30 AM   #10
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I wouldn't worry about it..ATF in there is not the end of the world. If it still disengages, RUN IT!!
If you do pull the slave cylinder out of the Bell housing you have to line up the rod into the yoke again. They come with a one time use clip on them new that breaks the first time you push in the clutch. I use a needle nose vise grip to hold it and align it while I insert the Slave again, once its in the yoke your golden.. Used that method the last time worked mint.
There is a thread on here somewhere discussing bleeding the normally sealed master slave assembly.. I think it is how to library..
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:30 AM   #11
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ATF and DOT 3 are both hydralic fluids, but designed for very different porpuses. i would worry the ATF may have damaged the seals. how much did you put in? the clutch components are sold as an assembly, salve and master cylinder are not sold seperatly.
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Get the ATF out.

It is a petroleum based fluid that will likely swell every rubber component in the system.
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Get the ATF out.

It is a petroleum based fluid that will likely swell every rubber component in the system.
It might stop his leak then...
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It might stop his leak then...
Generaly ATF in a clutch or brake system will soften the seals and cause a failure of the system. It is in the master now so I suspect that to fail first, leaving you with no clutch, very bad deal.
As per the posts above, IF you were low on fluid you needed to service the system anyhow.
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its a sealed system, i don't know the replacement procedure, but i know it's easy to screw up
There are two answers to that question...
1) You can buy the OEM replacement which includes the master and slave cylinders with fluid already in them.
2) There are after market parts that allow for bleeding.

Here is what Saturn says....

"WARNING: Do not attempt to bleed the clutch hydraulic unit. Any observed fittings are there for factory use only. The unit comes as a complete pre-bled unit. "


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Old 10-10-2009, 01:24 AM   #16
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its a sealed system, i don't know the replacement procedure, but i know it's easy to screw up
It's very easy to change.... 30 min job for someone that's done it before, maybe 45 if you haven't.

Some could maybe do it even sooner, but I take out the airbox, battery, battery tray, etc... The rest is cake.
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It's very easy to change.... 30 min job for someone that's done it before, maybe 45 if you haven't.

Some could maybe do it even sooner, but I take out the airbox, battery, battery tray, etc... The rest is cake.
So by the sounds of it, you don't have to pull the tranny to do it, so that's better than I thought.

IIRC, we did have to pull the tranny on my Father's 1998 S-10 to replace the slave cylinder. I was very unhappy, we had just replaced the damn clutch, then the slave went out about 400 miles later.
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the hardest part about changing the clutch hydrolics, is getting the master off the firewall, other than that it is very simple.

oh and by the way on s-10's the slave is bolted to the outside of the trans, ford rangers are on the inside with the clutch. f***in FORDS and thier better ideas
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Ok, maybe it was pulling my Father in Law's Ranger tranny out then. Either way, i'm tired of working on micro-trucks with bad engineering decisions.

I'll be glad when my Taco's parted out, and I can get my Dakota project going. Mid-size truck FTW.
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