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Old 02-15-2006, 07:18 PM   #1
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Is the Vue V6 3.5L, The same engine as the Malibu Maxx V6 3.5L ?
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browse around the threads for a while. BTW, you've got a honda engine. The one in the MAXX is the same they have been using for a while in the Olds line.
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Old 02-15-2006, 07:46 PM   #3
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No I don't have one, I have the 2.2L.
But didn't know where the Maxx engine came from.

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Old 02-15-2006, 08:44 PM   #4
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Here's some information about the GM 3500. Hope this helps.

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Ooh and note that the 3500 is NOT the same as the new GM 3.5 liter. The 3.5 has VVT, the 3500 does not.
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Great article in the Pdf above!

I'm sitting here at work with a spec sheet in front of me (I work at Mahle, we make pistons and all sorts of other stuff for automotive applications www.us.mahle.com) and I thought it might help with what's written here...

For the 3.5L in the Vue, here's what listed:
Displacement (L): 3.5, cc: 3471, Code: L66, Manufacturer: Honda, Locat.: Anna, OH, 05' # Produced: 46,900, Materials: Cyl Head (AL), Block (AL), Layout: V-6 (60 degrees), Bore x stroke: (89mm X 93mm), Compression Ratio: (10:1), Performance Hp/RPM: 250/5800, Torque lb/ft: 242/4500, Fuel System/Valving/Valve Actuation: SFI/DOHC/4vpc/VVT, 2006 Models Installed: Saturn Vue, Connecting Rod: Cast Iron Fracture Split, Camshaft Type: Cast Iron, Intake Manifold: Cast Aluminum...

Strangely enough, the I just noticed something on the other 3.5L's built in Anna, OH used in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline. The engine's code is listed as J35A, but there are some pretty fundamental differences in the fuel delivery and valvetrain setup, for the fuel system/valving and valve actuation it has the following listed: MFI/SOHC/4vpc/VTEC. Hmmm, I didn't realize they were a SOHC setup. Their con-rods are different as well, Forged powder coated fracture split, and a 1 piece Cast Crank. Heavy duty stuff...

We have a plant in Ramos Arizpe also, where they assemble the GM 3.5L. We make the pistons and con-rods for that motor.

The GM 3.5L V6 mentioned above is coded as the LX9, used in Malibu/Malibu Maxx/G6/Montana/Relay/Terranza/Uplander/Rendezvous.

The other GM 3.5L V6 has a couple of codes listed: LZ4, LZ5, LZE its used in the Monte Carlo and Impala.

Both the GM 3.5L are push-rod, roller rocker engines... SFI/OHV nothing fancy like VVT (for 05' manufactured engines at least).

The 3.6L LY7 used in the CTS and such has SFI/DOHC/VVT

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Thanks for that info Charlie, good stuff
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The other GM 3.5L V6 has a couple of codes listed: LZ4, LZ5, LZE its used in the Monte Carlo and Impala.
The 3.5 in the MC/Impala does have VVT.
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The 3.5 in the MC/Impala does have VVT.
Yeah, sorry about that, I goofed that up. The LX9 is the one that didn't have VVT.
The 3500 LZE's (the flexible fuel variety for Montes and Impalas) and LZ4's (Montes and Impalas) have VVT...
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...For the 3.5L in the Vue, here's what listed:
Displacement (L): 3.5, cc: 3471, Code: L66, Manufacturer: Honda, Locat.: Anna, OH, 05' # Produced: 46,900, Materials: Cyl Head (AL), Block (AL), Layout: V-6 (60 degrees), Bore x stroke: (89mm X 93mm), Compression Ratio: (10:1), Performance Hp/RPM: 250/5800, Torque lb/ft: 242/4500, Fuel System/Valving/Valve Actuation: SFI/DOHC/4vpc/VVT, 2006 Models Installed: Saturn Vue, Connecting Rod: Cast Iron Fracture Split, Camshaft Type: Cast Iron, Intake Manifold: Cast Aluminum...

Strangely enough, the I just noticed something on the other 3.5L's built in Anna, OH used in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline. The engine's code is listed as J35A, but there are some pretty fundamental differences in the fuel delivery and valvetrain setup, for the fuel system/valving and valve actuation it has the following listed: MFI/SOHC/4vpc/VTEC. Hmmm, I didn't realize they were a SOHC setup. Their con-rods are different as well, Forged powder coated fracture split, and a 1 piece Cast Crank. Heavy duty stuff...
I don't know who put together that data sheet but the 3.5 Honda engines are all SOHC, and have MFI fuel systems, including the one in the '04-up Vue. Seems as if the bit about the "Forged powder coated fracture split" connecting rods is also some mis-information. Con rods in both engines (which are near-identical, BTW) are sintered iron powdered metal, not "cast iron", not "powder coated". Sure is swell when they have non-technical people write these things, put them on the www spreading mis-information all over the place!
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I don't know who put together that data sheet but the 3.5 Honda engines are all SOHC, and have MFI fuel systems, including the one in the '04-up Vue. Seems as if the bit about the "Forged powder coated fracture split" connecting rods is also some mis-information. Con rods in both engines (which are near-identical, BTW) are sintered iron powdered metal, not "cast iron", not "powder coated". Sure is swell when they have non-technical people write these things, put them on the www spreading mis-information all over the place!
Damn, I just typed up a whole bunch of stuff only to close the window as my boss walked in.

I'll sum it up:
I screwed up typing the FPMFS part, it's actually Forged Powdered Metal Fracture Split. I type like a retarded ape with one hand. If I get a chance after lunch, I might talk with one of the people in the foundry about the con-rods, although I don't think we make any for Honda, I think our products for them are composite plastics for intakes or something.

They do have the 3.5L listed as a DOHC setup on this sheet, had I taken more than .01 seconds typing it, and actually thought about it, I'd have corrected it on the way. My bad for repeating it...

Ward's is the publication that sends us a quarterly spec sheet with all the autmotive applications that mahle produces products for. I work in IT, and it was given to me by a marketing person, who is going to get kicked square in the nuts, if he ever shows up to work. Maybe we have a contact at Ward's too, they need a good thrashing as well. Here's a link to the wall chart, with the same damn screwed up info! Arghh... http://www.us.mahle.com/C1256F7900537A47/vwContentByKey/W26LVHXZ845STULEN/$FILE/LV%20Chart%20-%20Inside%20Layout%20(2006).pdf

I hate I have contributed to the overall dumbing of the internet, no more posting for me, back to reading! Anyways, thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it.
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