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Old 12-11-2006, 12:55 PM   #1
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I was troubleshooting a dead driver side power window on my girlfriend's 1998 Saturn SL2 and it killed the battery.

Upon hooking up the battery charger, I noticed that it triggered the LOC code on her radio (CD player w/ EQ). I was surprised because I figured nobody ever bothered to set their radio lock code (since they might forget and lock themselves out). Well, apparently the previous owner did set a code (just my luck). Anyway, I guessed all the popular codes, and apparently after too many tries, it locks the radio into INOP mode.

I found a link to a forum thread (below) that described the process for GM vehicles, however Saturn and Geo use 4 digit radio codes instead of 6 digit codes like the rest of GM so the process is different than what you see spread all over the internet:
http://forums.carreview.com/showthre...?t=1839&page=4

***Read all steps before attempting. You are on a time limit when entering codes, so knowing what to do in advance will save alot of frustration***

1.) To begin, if your radio is displays LOC, then proceed to step 2. If your radio says INOP, then turn your ignition to the RUN position, and turn the radio ON. You must leave it like this for a minimum of 1 hour (not 59 minutes) to clear the INOP message. I would wait 1 1/2 hours just in case doing it too early causes the timer to start over.

2.) Turn your ignition to RUN (if not already), and your radio to OFF. Press and hold preset buttons 2 and 3 for around 5-10 seconds to obtain a scrambled version of your radio's original factory set code.

3.) Call 800-537-5140 and ignore whatever you are promted to do (something about different dealer brands Chevy, Pontiac, Saturn,etc.), and type the number 202108 into your phone and then press the # button.

4.) Input your radio's 4 digit code into your phone when prompted, then press the * button (NOT pound symbol like above step) and be ready with a pen and paper to write down the unscrambled code. Keep this code somewhere you WILL NOT lose it. I wrote mine in the notes section of the owners manual.

5.) Once you have the code written down, press and hold 5 and 6 on your radio's preset buttons for 5-10 seconds.

6.) Then press the seek down button once to start the entry process.

7.) Using the following key, repeatedly press the buttons to set your code:
seek down = first digit
seek up = second digit
tune down = third digit
tune up = fourth digit

NOTE: I just checked a picture of the stereo out and discovered the buttons have arrows facing left and right and not up and down. For the purposes of this process, left represents down, and right represents up.

8.) Once you have the code entered, press AM/FM to set it.

Presto, you have kept your local dealer from screwing you out of $30-100 dollars.

Note that the code given in step 3 belongs to a Pontiac dealer out there somewhere (judging by the number 2 at the beginning of the code if you listen to the voice prompts on the 800 number), so if they go out of business or wise up to their code being used, this method may eventually not work. However, the post I dug it up from is over a year old, so there is hope that it will last a while.

If you are not comfortable with the above process, I believe Saturn of Tempe (Arizona) will help you reset your radio over the phone for free; not sure though, I wanted to know how to do it myself, since service departments aren't always open especially on nights and weekends. I wouldn't go in person (since you will be easier to charge standing there with your wallet/purse- just call, and be very very VERY nice so that the tech doesn't feel like screwing you into paying.

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Old 12-11-2006, 01:42 PM   #2
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sweet thanks for posting it on the web so the theft deterrent's now moot!

shoulda said u kno how to do it, and instructed ppl to PM you.

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Old 12-11-2006, 01:57 PM   #3
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Um ya, if some thief is going to take 1.5 hours to find out your code...keep in mind your SATURN STEREO! Then you leave in a very interesting neighborhood.

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Old 12-11-2006, 02:15 PM   #4
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I wrote this guide because there are others out there who have gotten locked out of using their own legitimately purchased stereo. And some swindling dealers took what should have been a free fix and turned it into a for profit scheme.

Why should they have to wait for me to check my PMs or call a hundred dealers to find one who would help for free? How would you like it if you came searching for help and I made you jump through hoops, when I could have just as easily given you the answer?

There is no way that I would restrict information based on the assumption of what people "might" do with it. Just because there are instructions on the web for how to build a bomb, doesn't give you license to use it maliciously.

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Old 12-11-2006, 03:47 PM   #5
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Its not like this is super secret information. Any thief that is going to steal a STOCK radio already knows how to do this. This is ONLY helping people that locked themselves out of their own radio. There was a thread a couple of years ago about this, and that code stopped working a while back, so this will help alot of people. I am personally against any sort of lockout, because it only helps keep honest people honest, and hurts everyone else.

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Old 12-11-2006, 04:45 PM   #6
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Note that 2000+ saturn radios have a different procedure.

I also agree that 1.5 DIN GM stock radios aren't quite that cool to the thieves. The curvy 95-99 stereos won't even fit other cars properly. This lockout thing is, as stated above, mainly a GM dealer kickback, despite marketing/brainwashing to the contrary. Same as those $60 passlock/passkey key fobs.

My dealer doesn't even know how to unlock the 2000+ radio... despite that I could get the pre-code myself. They offered me a stock GM parts brand new radio for $470 or so. Er... no.

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Old 12-11-2006, 11:53 PM   #7
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Saturn of Puyallup helped my dad out for free over the phone. They're good there, though. Saturn of Renton told my dad to bring his car down there, so they could do it (and of course charge labor) so my dad called Puyallup when he got home, so make an appointment, and they did it over the phone.

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Old 12-11-2006, 11:58 PM   #8
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sweet thanks for posting it on the web so the theft deterrent's now moot!

shoulda said u kno how to do it, and instructed ppl to PM you.
yeah this is better than the video online that shows how to open a U-lock with a Bic pen.

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Old 12-12-2006, 05:40 AM   #9
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wow that sucks the dealer hear in ohio unlocked my dads 98 when the batt got replaced it locked the radio, What a scam!

I dont think anyone would steal a stock saturn radio but who know and thanks for posting in case anyone needs it!

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yeah this is better than the video online that shows how to open a U-lock with a Bic pen.
Or how to bump-key. All good information for us normal folk, that the criminals long since knew. It forces the lock manufacturers to stop lying and staying their lock is good, since no one knows better.

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yeah this is better than the video online that shows how to open a U-lock with a Bic pen.
I got two of my four U-locks open with a Bic pen, and helped bust the story open on bikeforums. Funny thing is, it was known about, but obscurely, for over 10 years. Kryptonite and Planet Bike offered to replace ALL such locks for free (I got all four of mine replaced). Of course, this is a little different, as a U-lock provides real security for something that could be a real theft target, unlike the "theft deterrent" factory radio. (Wanna know what its true "theft deterrent" is? The fact that it's a factory radio!)

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I was troubleshooting a dead driver side power window on my girlfriend's 1998 Saturn SL2 and it killed the battery.

Upon hooking up the battery charger, I noticed that it triggered the LOC code on her radio (CD player w/ EQ). I was surprised because I figured nobody ever bothered to set their radio lock code (since they might forget and lock themselves out). Well, apparently the previous owner did set a code (just my luck). Anyway, I guessed all the popular codes, and apparently after too many tries, it locks the radio into INOP mode.

I found a link to a forum thread (below) that described the process for GM vehicles, however Saturn and Geo use 4 digit radio codes instead of 6 digit codes like the rest of GM so the process is different than what you see spread all over the internet:
http://forums.carreview.com/showthre...?t=1839&page=4

***Read all steps before attempting. You are on a time limit when entering codes, so knowing what to do in advance will save alot of frustration***

1.) To begin, if your radio is displays LOC, then proceed to step 2. If your radio says INOP, then turn your ignition to the RUN position, and turn the radio ON. You must leave it like this for a minimum of 1 hour (not 59 minutes) to clear the INOP message. I would wait 1 1/2 hours just in case doing it too early causes the timer to start over.

2.) Turn your ignition to RUN (if not already), and your radio to OFF. Press and hold preset buttons 2 and 3 for around 5-10 seconds to obtain a scrambled version of your radio's original factory set code.

3.) Call 800-537-5140 and ignore whatever you are promted to do (something about different dealer brands Chevy, Pontiac, Saturn,etc.), and type the number 202108 into your phone and then press the # button.

4.) Input your radio's 4 digit code into your phone when prompted, then press the * button (NOT pound symbol like above step) and be ready with a pen and paper to write down the unscrambled code. Keep this code somewhere you WILL NOT lose it. I wrote mine in the notes section of the owners manual.

5.) Once you have the code written down, press and hold 5 and 6 on your radio's preset buttons for 5-10 seconds.

6.) Then press the seek down button once to start the entry process.

7.) Using the following key, repeatedly press the buttons to set your code:
seek down = first digit
seek up = second digit
tune down = third digit
tune up = fourth digit

NOTE: I just checked a picture of the stereo out and discovered the buttons have arrows facing left and right and not up and down. For the purposes of this process, left represents down, and right represents up.

8.) Once you have the code entered, press AM/FM to set it.

Presto, you have kept your local dealer from screwing you out of $30-100 dollars.

Note that the code given in step 3 belongs to a Pontiac dealer out there somewhere (judging by the number 2 at the beginning of the code if you listen to the voice prompts on the 800 number), so if they go out of business or wise up to their code being used, this method may eventually not work. However, the post I dug it up from is over a year old, so there is hope that it will last a while.

If you are not comfortable with the above process, I believe Saturn of Tempe (Arizona) will help you reset your radio over the phone for free; not sure though, I wanted to know how to do it myself, since service departments aren't always open especially on nights and weekends. I wouldn't go in person (since you will be easier to charge standing there with your wallet/purse- just call, and be very very VERY nice so that the tech doesn't feel like screwing you into paying.
Thanks for the help!!! I have been riding around for 4 weeks with no radio,,, although their nothing to brag about, it's still nice to have some sound. Glad I didn't have to pay to get it fixed. Works perfectly!

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wow that sucks the dealer hear in ohio unlocked my dads 98 when the batt got replaced it locked the radio, What a scam!

I dont think anyone would steal a stock saturn radio but who know and thanks for posting in case anyone needs it!
It doesn’t matter MOFO*******S will bust into any car just too look and see what is inside.
Case in point is my Nissan Murano that got broken into just to look since THERE AINT *****NIT INSIDE EVER. All that was taken was a whopping .75 cents out of the change holder. So for the cost of the .75 cents theft I got to pay 150 for glass and another 400 for paint since they enjoy scratching up the car as they climb into it.



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Note that 2000+ saturn radios have a different procedure.
Can someone please tell me what this procedure is?

I have an 2001 SL-2 With a CD and Tape deck radio.

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Can someone please tell me what this procedure is?

I have an 2001 SL-2 With a CD and Tape deck radio.

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If you forget your personal code, if the radio theft deterrent feature is accidentally activated with an unknown number, or if the radio is in the locked mode, contact your Saturn retailer. Your Saturn retailer is authorized to obtain the factory programmed code that is assigned to your radio to reset your system.

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Old 09-28-2007, 06:23 PM   #16
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Just to let anyone know, this method still works. I didn't know what to do after i took my stereo out and put it back in to see "loc". Number to call works great and the code worked great for my 97 saturn. Thanks to who ever found this method.

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This method still worked for me today, 2008-06-22. Thanks!

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Thanks, guys! It worked! Now if I can get the CD player to read one CD without an error message I will truly be happy.

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I just had my radio lock up after battery change, and went through the 1-800 number and got a code, worked great but the code didn't work on my radio and ended up saying lock. so i called the dealer in lincoln, Ne. He called and got the same code i did. I was getting pretty frustrated but then the dealer called me back and said he finally got a real person and they told me to try either 1234, or 1294. the 1234 ended up working and i'm back to listening to my radio. That has to be the coolest repair guy i've ever dealt with to go the extra mile for me. gotta give that saturn dealer extra credit for that.

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