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Old 07-26-2006, 03:46 AM   #1
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Default 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

Hi all,

I finally got the pictures off the camera for the timing belt replacement. The clamps were just to hold the new belt in place while it was threaded through.

The tensioners were stamped with "DB - Germany". I wonder if I can "Ask Dr. Z" on the next engine project.
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:21 AM   #2
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

Those pictures are worth more than a thousand words. In my future could I get away with using one vise grip per pair of cam gears to freeze the timing in place to make easier replacement of the timing belt instead of actually matching timing ticks? It looks do-able from the your pics. Otherwise I'll have to go through the procedures when my L300 is due. Thanks for the pics!

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Old 07-26-2006, 04:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

Great pictures. Ahh, the versatility of ViceGrips!! No toolbox should be without a set

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Old 07-28-2006, 10:17 PM   #4
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

I'm still not sure...I may take it to the dealer (I'm at 70k right now). Great pics though - Thanks!

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Old 05-02-2013, 05:00 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

New to forum, Will be doing Timing belt on wife's L300 soon has 96,000mi
I have the Gates timing belt kit TCK285B and Gates 41142 water pump came with an "O" ring gasket beside the Baum AS4145 with the AS4558 Tension Wrench Is there anything else that I need? I was considering cam and crankshaft seals I really like the Saturn L series but don't know if it will develop any antique value in the future. I intend to get at least 200,000 miles out of this one. My 2.2 has over 130,000 miles, and so far I replaced plugs and the engine sub frame when it rotted out due to rust.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

I have read a bunch of the timing belt/water pump change threads. So, stupid question time.

I have not read anywhere of the pre work involved, IE, how much stuff do I have to remove just to get to the timing chains, water pump, .
I assume Air filter housing, alternator, AC compressor etc.

Assuming that I can ever figure out why our sedan will not start right now, then I am going to have to do the 100,000 mile thing soon, as our sedan currently has right at 97,000 miles on it. In fact, I am not so sure that if I just went ahead and started on the timing chain project, it would be easier to replace the starter at the same time.

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Old 05-02-2013, 07:49 PM   #7
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Whoa there!? Stop! Back up the truck!? Engine fails to fire up? Timing belt due? Starter questionable? Talk about information overload...........................

One disaster at a time. There's some major mojo going on with your fine automobile and with a little sorting out, should return your car back to the dependable ride it was before these issues popped up. Starting with the no-start issue.

Is this a starter turns the engine but it won't fire up problem or the starter never runs at all (dead silence when the ignition switch is turned to the START position)?

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Old 05-03-2013, 08:49 AM   #8
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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

Turn the key to start, nothing, no noise, no grinding, no movement, nothing.
I know the battery is good, I have cleaned the battery cables at the battery connection. Tried starting in neutral.

With the key in the on position, we held a wire on the starter, then touched the positive post on the side of the fuse block, it started right up and ran like a swiss watch. Turned it off, same thing, no noise, movement, nothing. Dead in the driveway.

So, to answer the question, absolute dead silence when I turn the key to start.

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OK, more info for clarity. There's either a serious battery cable issue of corrosion or a starting circuit problem. Battery cables are easy to examine for exterior corrosion but more difficult when hidden under insulation so disconnection and inspection of battery negative is first. If necessary, cut and peel back the heavy insulation on terminals to reveal hidden corrosion if a side terminal battery cracked and leaks battery acid into a terminal to eat away copper wires. Red positive terminals sometimes become compromised from battery side terminal failure and the cable won't carry the large current for starter power. Cables and ground need to be checked. If there's any doubt, have the battery tested at any store selling car batteries. Next is checking the starting circuit.

The START signal (12v) goes from the ignition switch's START wire (yellow) to the Park/Neutral safety switch and on to the starter solenoid as a small gauge purple wire on its own terminal. You can disconnect this wire from the starter solenoid terminal and measure it for 12v with either a multimeter out test light while someone turns the ignition switch to the START position; 12v on this wire only in START position. Disconnecting this wire allows testing without fear of the starter powering up. If all checks go without revealing anything wrong, the starter is a likely problem.

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Default Re: 2000 LS2 3.0 V6 Timing Belt Replacement Pictures

thank u all for the info and helpers,,,now what else needs to be removed to get to crankshaft and be able to pull covers? does the right front tire need to be removed?

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I have never tried this method, but on a past episode of Car SOS, the mechanic expert Fuzz Townsend did this for replacing the timing belt.

He used a sharp blade and cut the existing timing belt all the way round, effectively cutting it in half.

He then pulled of/cut off the front half leaving the rear half on the cogs.

The new belt was then pushed onto the cogs all way round, then the remaining half of the old belt was cut off and the new belt belt pushed squarely home.

No special tools required other than a sharp knife and no timing adjustments either.

Simplicity in effectiveness.

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......what else needs to be removed to get to crankshaft and be able to pull covers? does the right front tire need to be removed?
Yes, you must remove the right front wheel and spash shield to access the crankshaft pulley and, additionally, to remove the front timing belt cover. The drive belt will, of course, be removed along with the tensioner and bracket, and the front engine mount must also be removed to in order to take off the drive belt. BTW, do you have your own repair manual or a subscription to an online manual like http://www.alldatadiy.com/ (AllData) or http://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp (Mitchell Manuals)? Both of these companies provide professional level repair information.

According to the 2000 Saturn L81 FSM the engine must be supported from above during removal of the front mount and while it is off of the vehicle. If you have access to a good floor jack you can support the engine from below. Place a length of 2x4 (perhaps 12") on the head of the jack so that the wood is pressing against the oil pan and not the jack head itself. The jack should keep the engine only slightly elevated. At minimum, a DIYer should have the whole front end on jack stands and the rear wheels chocked. (Personally, I believe that the vehicle should be elevated at all the four wheels. In my case, I have a pair of low rise ramps which lift 6". I would place my rear wheels on the ramps and use jack stands at the front.)

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I have never tried this method, but on a past episode of Car SOS, the mechanic expert Fuzz Townsend did this for replacing the timing belt.

He used a sharp blade and cut the existing timing belt all the way round, effectively cutting it in half.

He then pulled of/cut off the front half leaving the rear half on the cogs.

The new belt was then pushed onto the cogs all way round, then the remaining half of the old belt was cut off and the new belt belt pushed squarely home.

No special tools required other than a sharp knife and no timing adjustments either.

Simplicity in effectiveness.
This seems like a plausible manner in which a timing belt can be replaced by itself. Frankly, I find the idea very intriguing. I can imagine a way in which this can be done, but there are some signficant down sides to doing such a "quick and dirty" timing belt replacement.

1) There is no way of replacing the water pump;
2) one cannot check the condition of the timing belt's tensioner nor idler pulleys, and
3) neither can one replace them;
4) it's possible that a DIYer may install a new belt onto an engine where the timing is no longer correct (off by only one cog) while unaware of that fact.

This job is only performed at 100K mile intervals. The parts mentioned above are easily accessed at this time and should be replaced. One risks performing this job a second time prematurely if those parts are not replaced along with the timing belt.

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