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Old 07-21-2006, 12:37 PM   #1
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Question Polymer on Outlook

Will the Outlook have dent resistant polymer body panels?

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Old 07-21-2006, 03:13 PM   #2
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No No No No

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Old 07-21-2006, 03:49 PM   #3
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Why not?

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Old 07-21-2006, 06:13 PM   #4
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Default Re: Polymer on Outlook

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Why not?
Unfortunately, Polymer is being eliminated entirely. Once the last ION's and VUE's rollout after the '07 model year, Polymer will be no more.

The lame excuses I am hearing are:
  1. It's too expensive
  2. Panel gaps are too wide

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Old 07-21-2006, 06:18 PM   #5
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The lame excuses I am hearing are:
  1. It's too expensive
  2. Panel gaps are too wide
Those are the two main reasons. To devlop a vehicle on a dedicated platform is not cost effective, and right GM just can't afford it. The VUE and ION are on shared platforms, but they were designed first to hold plymer panels, and the structure is very different than if it weren't. Besides that, the #1 ingredient in plastic is oil, and it's always setting a new record high. The panel gaps are not acceptable for the type of market will be going after soon. It will be a sort of Oldsmobile replacement, and Euro fighter. VW would be it's arch nemisis essentially.

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Old 07-22-2006, 12:09 AM   #6
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Unfortunetaly, Saturn is getting rid of polymer all together, which sucks.

I love polymer, and I will miss it on future Saturn cars.

Obviously I understand them not putting it on big vehicles.

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Old 07-22-2006, 09:31 AM   #7
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Obviously I understand them not putting it on big vehicles.
GM tried it once before. The early Lumina APV/Silohuette/Transport "dustbuster" minivans were polymer.

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Old 07-22-2006, 04:44 PM   #8
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Polymer is gone... just like Saturn. Out with the old in with the new. It's clone time baby!

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Old 07-23-2006, 10:43 AM   #9
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It's clone time baby!
Waahhh, wahh, wahhh, boo-hoo

GOOD! The cars will be much better developed and not noisy, cheap rattletraps.
Keep your old Saturns, I want the new Saturns with quiet interiors and powerful engines and excellent fit and finish.

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Old 07-24-2006, 10:51 PM   #10
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Waahhh, wahh, wahhh, boo-hoo

GOOD! The cars will be much better developed and not noisy, cheap rattletraps.
Keep your old Saturns, I want the new Saturns with quiet interiors and powerful engines and excellent fit and finish.
Here, here. Tying Saturn to Opel is probably the second best marriage I've seen in recent history (The DCX LX platform to the M-B E Class is the first, IMHO ). If Opel is anything like it was the last time it came to the US, this will be great. The old Opel Manta was a ball to drive. It and the Datsun 510 were probably the best affordable 3-box imports of the early '70s.

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Old 07-25-2006, 04:14 PM   #11
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If Saturn is going to have so many Opel parts, why can't they bring the Zafira over here which is the only minivanish thing that i would consider.

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Old 07-25-2006, 04:37 PM   #12
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If Saturn is going to have so many Opel parts, why can't they bring the Zafira over here which is the only minivanish thing that i would consider.
I've been saying that for months, along with a few others here. GM needs to get in the micro-van (hmmm, maybe I just coined a new segment term, but it's probably been used before) arena in the US before they arrive and offer too little too late. The Mazda5 has quickly become the Mazda model I see on the road more than any other in my area.

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Old 09-06-2006, 11:39 AM   #13
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I really had no clue about polymer panels until I browsed a Saturn lot...eventually getting a VUE. It wasn't the deal clincher, but a little bonus I thought....now, I can't imagine getting a car without polymer panels. Everyday, I go for a walk in the city I look at the sides of cars (ok, I am not fanatical about it...LOL), and I see that just about every car has little quarter sized dings on their sides. From plain everyday cars to up-level cars, they all have dings....They all look battle scarred....Kinda depressing actually, a nice car having dings all along its sides.....
As for the noise, the 06 is the most rattle free car I have ever driven, and very quiet. I personally think the polymer coupled with the support frame actually quietens the car even more (plus, I hear they put in more insulation).....It is a shame, and Saturn, if your listening, you got a convert to polymer, yet you pull the rug out from under me....I planned on keeping my VUE for a couple of decades, at least, but if the Antera or Outlook is all it is cracked up to be, I'd go for one of those, but the 'no polymer' really just makes it another car....it will have to win me over with other attributes, and polymer is a biggy..IMHO

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Old 09-06-2006, 08:08 PM   #14
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Default Re: Polymer on Outlook

Euro cars don't necessarily meet US standards and vice versa..bunch of typcial nitpicking about bumper heights and light bulbs...stuff like that..

I thought there was a push to merge the standards..which would give us some cool cars and save the automobile some moolah

The bumpers are polymer at least

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Old 09-07-2006, 12:27 PM   #15
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Sorry, not good enough.

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I think the chrome grill and fascia lowers will still be polymer.

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Old 09-13-2006, 07:37 PM   #17
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Sorry, not good enough.

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Old 09-14-2006, 04:39 PM   #18
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Waahhh, wahh, wahhh, boo-hoo

GOOD! The cars will be much better developed and not noisy, cheap rattletraps.
Keep your old Saturns, I want the new Saturns with quiet interiors and powerful engines and excellent fit and finish.
My LS1 isn't noisy at all - it's actually very quiet.............and what's wrong with the fit and finish???

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My LS1 isn't noisy at all - it's actually very quiet.............and what's wrong with the fit and finish???
Ditto with my VUE (1st generation mind you, and yes, I can hear the engine, but so what? I actually kind of like that) and my (now very old) SW2.

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My LS1 isn't noisy at all - it's actually very quiet.............and what's wrong with the fit and finish???
I can stick one of my fat little fingers in between the gaps in the doors on my SC1, and the door closes with an odd shudder, same with the VUE.

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