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Old 03-10-2006, 08:24 AM   #1
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Default Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

I know alot of people that always have to buy brand name over generic when it comes to anything that they put into their mouths. They buy the most healthy, the less fattening, the leaner meat, the better brand name cereal, and soda pop.
Well for something that gets more of a beating on a daily basis (our vehicles). Why do people nickel and dime their oil changes? I see people lining up in herds to get their oil changed by places that use the crappiest oil.
The average life expectancy for a vehicle is about 10 years, sometimes less. You would think that since oil changes have to be done at least 4 times a year, people would try to use the best oil that they can get in their vehicles.

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Old 03-10-2006, 08:44 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

Well, most people only keep a car a few years nowadays. They don't care if the care is going to make it to 100K miles.

Plus, people are just cheap and 99% of car owners aren't mechanically inclined enough to even tell you why your engine even needs oil in the first place.

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Old 03-10-2006, 08:47 AM   #3
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Default Re: Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

My guess is that people aren't as educated with oil as they are with food.

If you change your oil at the correct intervals, any decent oil that's certrified with the correct rating will be fine.

but on that note..a 2 for a dollar special in a dusty white can that says 'OIL' at a dollar store would probably not be a good choice..

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Old 03-10-2006, 09:17 AM   #4
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Default Re: Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

I buy generic cereal. It tastes the same.
Generic milk. Same.
Generic green beans. Same.
Generic chicken. Same.
Generic rice. Same.

That's why I believe generic oil is the same as long as it's API certified.

The problem is that's is extrememly difficult to prove "better" oil is actually, better. Some tests have shown "cleaner looking" engines or "less wear." That may be all fine and dandy, but what we need to conclude is that oil brand X will or will not result in increased performance, economy, or longetivity. Bob can gloat about how Mobil 1 oil got his car 200K miles, but on the other hand, Joe got 200K out of Wal-Mart oil in the same model car.

If an engine fails, how many times can it be proven that it was due to using a particular brand of oil? Speaking of, assuming oil is changed on schedule, what potential engine failures could be due to generic oil? Specifically, why is generic oil "bad" for your engine? And I'm speaking of the attributes listed above: performance, economy, and longetivity.

I have yet to see proven, quantitative data showing that a particular brand of oil is better for my car. That's why I use the cheapest I can find.

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Old 03-10-2006, 09:49 AM   #5
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I know alot of people that always have to buy brand name over generic when it comes to anything that they put into their mouths. They buy the most healthy, the less fattening, the leaner meat, the better brand name cereal, and soda pop.
I'm one of those that buys the best oil and filter I can find, but to answer your question - Because I can buy a new car if I blow this one up but I'm kinda stuck in this body.............

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Old 03-10-2006, 09:58 AM   #6
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Wow imagine that.....I agree with you Token!!!!

I guess everyday brings a suprise huh?

a good oil change program is the cheapest insurance for your car.

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Old 03-10-2006, 04:37 PM   #7
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Default Re: Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

The name on the can is not as important as the writing thats on the spine.If it meets manufacturers specs than its safe to use.IMO is more important to do changes at proper intervals DEPENDING on the kind of driving you do than picking a name brand thats 75 cents a quart more.

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Old 03-10-2006, 04:52 PM   #8
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The name on the can is not as important as the writing thats on the spine.If it meets manufacturers specs than its safe to use.IMO is more important to do changes at proper intervals DEPENDING on the kind of driving you do than picking a name brand thats 75 cents a quart more.
If thats the case, then why do people spend twice as much for clothing? It's the same stitching, it covers your arms and butt. But people will still spend 2-3 times more in price for clothes rather than the generic that they could buy at the cheapy Wallymart.
They buy brand name:
Clothes, Shoes, Food, Watches, Shampoo, Toothpaste, Soda Pop, etc. etc.
But they buy Generic oil.......I don't get it?!?

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Old 03-10-2006, 05:02 PM   #9
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If thats the case, then why do people spend twice as much for clothing? It's the same stitching, it covers your arms and butt. But people will still spend 2-3 times more in price for clothes rather than the generic that they could buy at the cheapy Wallymart.
They buy brand name:
Clothes, Shoes, Food, Watches, Shampoo, Toothpaste, Soda Pop, etc. etc.
But they buy Generic oil.......I don't get it?!?
Because, the good expensive oils don't come with a sticker to put on your back window so that everyone can see. I use good oil becuase I buy my shirts off the bargain rack. Or they just spent all their money on the other expensive crap. I want a Mobil1 sticker to put next to my K&N sticker. That would be sweet!

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Old 03-10-2006, 05:02 PM   #10
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If thats the case, then why do people spend twice as much for clothing? It's the same stitching, it covers your arms and butt. But people will still spend 2-3 times more in price for clothes rather than the generic that they could buy at the cheapy Wallymart.
They buy brand name:
Clothes, Shoes, Food, Watches, Shampoo, Toothpaste, Soda Pop, etc. etc.
But they buy Generic oil.......I don't get it?!?
Trust me, walmart jeans are NOT the same as some of the nicer jeans out there.

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Old 03-10-2006, 06:43 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why are people butt backwards when it comes to Oil Changes?

It's not the oil that wears out. It's the additives that they put in it. The cheaper ones may not even have certain additives that help prolong engine life. So while I agree that you should spend some money on oil for your car, the reasons are for the additional benefits from the additives.

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Old 03-10-2006, 07:18 PM   #12
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Funny thing is that although I always buy name brand oil to add if I'm running low, I have my oil changes done at Saturn service and I have absolutely no idea what brand or quality of oil they use.

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Old 03-10-2006, 07:35 PM   #13
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Well, most people only keep a car a few years nowadays. They don't care if the care is going to make it to 100K miles.

Plus, people are just cheap and 99% of car owners aren't mechanically inclined enough to even tell you why your engine even needs oil in the first place.
I love this. Are those cheap people the same ones buying a new car every few years? If you didn't buy a car every few years you could afford decent oil.

I always use the yellow jug, Penzoil. For the most part that's the only oil the car has gotten, much like Shell gas.

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Old 03-10-2006, 07:39 PM   #14
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If you do your oil changes every 3,000 miles and keep the engine oil level full
if it burns some off, I think your engine will live longer.
I do an oil change every 3 to 4 weeks because of the mileage I put on.
Sometimes I go to jiffy lube, or another garage that can do it as I'm on the road. I run Valvoline, or castrol oil in it.
I used to change my oil myself but then I had more space to work.
I don't have a garage where I'm living now and out of respect for my landlord I don't want to spill oil on the driveway. Plus there's the problem of how to properly dispose of the oil. When I lived in NY, any garage would take it off your hands. Here in Massachusetts I don't have a clue but I'll put it to you this way-I'm not dumping it somewhere.

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Old 03-10-2006, 09:22 PM   #15
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I buy Valvoline or Quaker State engine oil when I change it myself. Otherwise I have my Saturn retailer do it for me. my 96 SC2 had 170,000 miles when I traded it in for a 2002 SC2 and my 92 SC had over 180,000 miles when I replaced it with the 96 SC2.

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[QUOTE=John10]Funny thing is that although I always buy name brand oil to add if I'm running low, I have my oil changes done at Saturn service and I have absolutely no idea what brand or quality of oil they use.[/QUOT I think they use what they can get the better price for. Years ago when I worked for Jeep we had our oil pumped into a tank in the ground.It had some off name brand and I can assure you it was not Quaker state,but it meet or exceeded manufactures warranty.

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Old 03-10-2006, 10:16 PM   #17
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I buy Valvoline or Quaker State engine oil when I change it myself. Otherwise I have my Saturn retailer do it for me. my 96 SC2 had 170,000 miles when I traded it in for a 2002 SC2 and my 92 SC had over 180,000 miles when I replaced it with the 96 SC2.
And I would bet if you had used exxon motor oil or Hess motor oil you would of achieved the same milage out of both vehicles. IMO Its you oil changes that saved your engine,not the Quaker State label.

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Old 03-10-2006, 11:02 PM   #18
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Pennywise....pound foolish.

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Old 03-11-2006, 03:51 AM   #19
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Just like someone else said, one they don't know much about oil....and another thing someone brought up is about the "advertising" thing, if they wear "fancy designer clothes" they advertise say Tommy Hilfiger and they supposedly look more classy, which is so stupid that people are so stuck on labels.....who knows what kind of oil someone uses, LOL, it's not like you get a free sticker to put on your car.....oh, and it's not like what brand of oil you use is the happening thing to talk about or "show off".

But anyways, when I had my Satty before it got wrecked, since it was older and had more mileage, I used high mileage Valvoline.....but another reason I think people use a certain oil is because of what they were around growing up. I use Valvoline because that's what my dad and his dad used.

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In my experience I don't see a reason to use expensive oil. I use the cheap oil and filter from Walmart and have not had a problem. I've got a 91sl bought brand new, that's got over 195,000 miles on it, a 95sc2 that's got over 198,000 and a 98sw2 with 85,000 and have owned three other Saturns with no problems. Of course I change oil and filter every 3000 religiously.

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