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Old 02-16-2006, 12:31 AM   #1
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Default Should GM Import the Opel Astra from Europe as Saturn's Next Small Car?

Should GM import the Opel Astra from Europe as Saturn's next small car?

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The Beacon Journal reports that General Motors will build a new Pontiac small car, not the rumored Saturn ION replacement, at GM's Lordstowns, Ohio manufacturing facility. GM made the announcement at the 2006 National Automobile Dealers Association annual meeting in Orlando, Florida earlier this week. Incidentally, sources tell SaturnFans.com – and a search of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's website confirms – that Saturn has registered the name 'Astra' with the organization. Astra is the name of the Opel small car sold in Europe. GM executives have gone on record saying that Saturn and Opel will collaborate on new models. Saturn will ship a version of its SKY roadster to Europe as the Opel GT beginning next year. Will GM import the Astra to the United States as the ION replacement? Perhaps. Such a move would give Saturn almost instant access to a new small car, and it would circumvent any North American production issues. Currently only Lordstown and Spring Hill are configured to build GM Delta-based vehicles in the United States; the Spring Hill line is scheduled to be shut down and retooled at the end of this year.

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Old 02-16-2006, 08:03 AM   #2
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I think it would be a cool car for some. I wouldn't want such a small car, but would be nice if they bring the diesel in it, could compete with the golf TD.

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Old 02-16-2006, 09:40 AM   #3
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Default Re: Should GM Import the Opel Astra from Europe as Saturn's Next Small Car?

Given a choice between the nest Small Saturn being a rebadged Chevy or Pontiac or a rebadged Opel. Give me the Opel. My first car was a 70' Opel GT. I still miss that car. I too would like to see a diesel option in a small 4 door sedan.

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Old 02-16-2006, 09:48 AM   #4
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They should definitely bring it over. It'll quickly become one of the best sellers if they keep the looks and build quality on par with Opel's version.

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Old 02-16-2006, 09:52 AM   #5
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I don't have a problem with it -- the Astra is way cool.

It may p*ss off a few UAW peeps, though.

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Old 02-16-2006, 09:55 AM   #6
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I say bring it on....in 3dr and 5dr only to further differentiate it from other more mainstream GM models. I think the Astra is absolutely beautiful, and it already has the "Euro-flavor" baked right in. Just don't detune it or soften the suspension, it's German, let it stay that way. No more dumbing down for American tastes. It's just like the BMW, Mercedes and VW cars....if you don't 'get it', you never will.

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Old 02-16-2006, 09:57 AM   #7
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I say yes.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:02 AM   #8
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I say build it in America and not import it.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:03 AM   #9
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As a vehicle, yes. One sharp car.
What most people don't know that Opel's reputation for quality is not all that buena in Europe.

But I would like to see it built here in the US.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:08 AM   #10
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What are they gonna call it the Saturn VIBE?

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:09 AM   #11
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Sorry, I don't like hatchbacks.

Show me a coupe version and then I'd consider it.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:17 AM   #12
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What are they gonna call it the Saturn VIBE?
Huh? It's a hatchback, not a baby SUV. It looks nothing like the Vibe. Oh, wait, it does have 4 wheels...yep, it's a Vibe clone....NOT. hehehe

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:19 AM   #13
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As a vehicle, yes. One sharp car.
What most people don't know that Opel's reputation for quality is not all that buena in Europe.

But I would like to see it built here in the US.
Apparently, Opel has improved quality a great deal. They sell every Astra they make, and it's gotten some great reviews.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:23 AM   #14
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I say build it in America and not import it.
Mmmmmm....can't yet. It isn't built on the Delta platform so it can't go to Springhill or to Lordstown or that place in Mexico they build the HHR. But....aren't they shutting down the Springhill plant to retool? And isn't that retooling taking place shortly before the new Delta based Opel Astra debuts in Europe in 2008? Could it be? Oh...the signs point to maybe it will be built in Springhill, after the retooling...perhaps? Let's hope so, I mean after all, the Opel GT is being built in the Sky/Solstice plant and sent overseas.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:24 AM   #15
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I'm in favor of it--Saturn could really benefit from the Astra. I'd love the diesel option, too, but I think new diesel emissions regs will prohibit the diesel from our shores. Too bad.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:41 AM   #16
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Opel Astra would become the smallest Saturn ever. Only 169 inches long. 3dr/5dr, just a bit shorter than the Matrix/Vibe so it will compete directly with them and the Subaru Impreza/Saab 9-3x. And the Optra hatch.

It may be good for small/young/single people on a budget, but it is no Ion replacement. With no Ion, there will be a pretty large gap between Astra and Aura.

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Huh? It's a hatchback, not a baby SUV. It looks nothing like the Vibe. Oh, wait, it does have 4 wheels...yep, it's a Vibe clone....NOT. hehehe
OK, it looks like a Mazda3 rear ended a VIBE. I just don't like hatchbacks.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:49 AM   #18
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Opel Astra would become the smallest Saturn ever. Only 169 inches long. 3dr/5dr, just a bit shorter than the Matrix/Vibe so it will compete directly with them and the Subaru Impreza/Saab 9-3x. And the Optra hatch.

It may be good for small/young/single people on a budget, but it is no Ion replacement. With no Ion, there will be a pretty large gap between Astra and Aura.
HA! see, Vibe competition.
What about the Dodge Caliber? Along the same lines it looks like.

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Old 02-16-2006, 10:59 AM   #19
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I have a friend that likes to travel in Europe and i thought i'd share her remarks to this speculative information:

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You see the opel Astra everywhere in Europe…. I would love a small car like this just to drive back and forth to work!"

(She drives a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix and her daily work commute is about 30 - 40 miles each way)

Personally, i like it enough to say yes, go ahead, GM! Like Wolfman said, i'd rather see Saturn with a unique product than an obvious Chevy Cobalt clone.

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Old 02-16-2006, 11:15 AM   #20
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Not sure exactly what kind of car the Asra is. Im sure if I can find some infor on the kind of car, I might be better able to five my feedback. I will do some digging and if anyone has some info on this car, let me know. Thanks!

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