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Old 07-10-2005, 11:49 PM   #1
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Question Would You Buy a Saturn Made in Mexico?

Rumors suggest that the next generation VUE will not be manufactured in Spring Hill, Tennessee, but possibly at a GM plant in Mexico instead. Would you consider buying a Saturn made in Mexico? Post your thoughts.

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:17 AM   #2
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Just like I would not buy any VW made in Mexico, there is no way I'd buy any GM vehicle made in Mexico. If this is true, what a sad day for Saturn...

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:17 AM   #3
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I would buy a Saturn Sky for example even if it was made in Mexico. My current car (Honda Accord) was assembled in Mexico as well-- and while I would have prefered one made in Japan or Ohio-- the differences if any in quality are very small. In the assembly process , most of the car is built by machines from what I understand using computers and what not-- so the quality should be similar to one made in the US-- I imagine also this scenario may vary depending on the company-- for Toyota's quality standards appear to be a bit different from Chrysler for example-

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:28 AM   #4
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Default Re: Would You Buy a Saturn Made in Mexico?

I will not buy any car built in Mexico or any other cheap labor market, or worse yet, a car built under an oppressive Communist regime like China's! As it is, sometimes we have little or no choice with other products, but I hope it doesn't come to that with automobiles. And even if it does, I will continue to fight the trend, at the very least by voting against the politicians who support unregulated "free trade" at the expense of middle class U.S. jobs and often at the expense of our strategic interests.

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:37 AM   #5
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I would not buy a Vue made in Mexico, based my past experience with a Mexican built VW. You would think that if they were indeed to move production out of Spring Hill that it would go to the Canadian plant that makes the Equinox and Torrent. But then again, all three may be built in Mexico in 2008.

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:42 AM   #6
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NO - I'd go Mustang or VW ragtop first.

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:52 AM   #7
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Default Re: Would You Buy a Saturn Made in Mexico?

I voted no, but it's actually more of a "probably not". It would weigh heavily, but not be a totally deciding factor. Also, note that people DO play a large role in quality, even if machines are used. It is certainly possible for people anywhere to make good quality vehicles, but often when plants are moved like this, it is to take advantage of cheap (and often highly uneducated) labor. If machines make mistakes, a less educated person may be less likely to spot the problem (dependant upon their training).

A man who I knew growing up worked for an electric motor company, at a plant in Indiana. The motors were excellent quality. Then the management decided to move the factory to china. Before he moved to another branch, during the transition period, they were receiving the early products of this new plant. The motors tended to catch fire. This was more of a materials problem, though. About 6 months later, he returned for a visit, and I was talking with him. He was still involved with testing the products from china, which were still not good enough to use. They would receive one batch, and the motors would have practically no oil in them. The engineers would tell the plant the proper amount of oil to put in the motors, and those people would instruct the assembly workers on the proper amount. The workers, however, did not have a concept of importance of specific amounts, but simply understood "more oil". The next batch of motors came, and the pallet (not yet opened) was dripping with oil. They literally were dumping oil from the motors.

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Old 07-11-2005, 01:06 AM   #8
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THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THAT SATURNS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ALL AMERICAN VEHICLES, I WOULD HATE IF THIS WAS TO HAPPEN, PERSONALLY IF IT HAPPENS I WOULD NOT BUY A SATURN AT ALL. I DO NOT KNOW THE NUMBERS, HOWEVER IF THIS MOVE SUPPOSED TO HELP GM AS A COMPANY, IN THE OTHER HAND IT WILL BE SAD FOR MANY SATURN FANS, INCLUDING MYSELF. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MEXICO ASSEMBLIES HOWEVER SATURNS WERE BORN HERE AND SHOULD STAY HERE.

PLEASE DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-11-2005, 01:09 AM   #9
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Holy Capslock batman...

Anyway: If I was considering to buy a saturn and it was in Mexico... I would definitely give the car less thought to buy. It would take a full run around on the dealer lot, and probably an overnight test drive to get me convinced its a decent product. Now, if the engine was made in mexico, no way. BUT: Because I can be assured that the engine is indeed a honda and not built in mexico, that would sway the decision highly towards 'yes'.

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Old 07-11-2005, 01:14 AM   #10
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Holy Capslock batman...

Anyway: If I was considering to buy a saturn and it was in Mexico... I would definitely give the car less thought to buy. It would take a full run around on the dealer lot, and probably an overnight test drive to get me convinced its a decent product. Now, if the engine was made in mexico, no way. BUT: Because I can be assured that the engine is indeed a honda and not built in mexico, that would sway the decision highly towards 'yes'.

I WOULD NOT IT BUY IF IT HAD A HONDA ENGINE PERIOD, LIKE FOR INSTANCE THE VUE WITH THE HONDA POWER PLANT, WILL NEVER BUY A SATURN WITH A HONDA ENGINE NO WAY......

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Old 07-11-2005, 02:10 AM   #11
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I have owned 2 VW's made in Mexico, One I got rid of after 7,000 miles the second one after 9200 miles. I will never own a vehicle of any kind or brand that is made there.

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Old 07-11-2005, 02:22 AM   #12
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Default Re: Would You Buy a Saturn Made in Mexico?

"In the assembly process , most of the car is built by machines from what I understand using computers and what not-- so the quality should be similar to one made in the US"

in mexico, there are few machines in plants, because it's actually cheaper to have manual labor do it. ever see the inside of a mexican plant? crowded is an understatement.

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Old 07-11-2005, 03:01 AM   #13
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Not for the American price right now.
This country is going to Hell faster every day now

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Old 07-11-2005, 03:19 AM   #14
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Rumors suggest that the next generation VUE will not be manufactured in Spring Hill, Tennessee, but possibly at a GM plant in Mexico instead. Would you consider buying a Saturn made in Mexico? Post your thoughts.

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If I wanted to buy a car that's "Hecho en Mexico," then I'll just buy a VW.

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Old 07-11-2005, 05:19 AM   #15
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I refuse to buy a Saturn/GM vehicle, or any vehicle for that matter, that is assembled in a third world country under substandard labor conditions. It's bad enough that just about every consumer product is built in, or at least has a few parts from, a third world country. If GM ever wants me to buy one of its vehicles again, it has to make me believe that its quality is at least that of the Honda I have now, and it must be built under good labor conditions by workers who are paid well for their time.

It's not just where the entire car is put together, either. If major parts of the car are put together under poor working conditions, they can count me out as well. Engines from China or Mexico, for example.

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Old 07-11-2005, 05:50 AM   #16
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As a now retired GM hourly retiree from a now closed GM pant, which outsourced to Mexico I am bitter. GM does not care about their workers or retirees in fact they probably wish we would die so they would not have to pay us anymore.
I would never buy any vehicle not made in the U.S. that means no for Canada also, we are not on a level playing field anymore with Canada, GM or not. I's is great that they have a union but it is the CAW not UAW we now have to look out for the working class in U.S.
If the Mexicans started a union it still would not change my mind.
As President Kennedy said back in the 60's "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"
Be loyal to the U.S. buy purchasing U.S. made products.

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Old 07-11-2005, 06:18 AM   #17
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What do you think about purchasing products built here by non-American companies (Honda, Toyo, etc.)?

I'm curious as to what UAW people think about them, given that Honda and Toyota workers both generally enjoy good pay and benefits.

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Old 07-11-2005, 06:32 AM   #18
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The reason I was originally attracted to Saturn was the company's decision to manufacture the car in the US using a unique labor/management relationship. Nothing against Mexico but I do not want to see Saturns made there.

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Old 07-11-2005, 06:37 AM   #19
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Before I decided to buy a Saturn, I was looking for just "an economical car." I personally will only buy American made cars produced by American owned companies, and I wanted something dependable. So, I was looking at the Chevy Prizm, the Ford Escort, and Saturn.

I quickly found out that the Prizm rolls of a Toyota assembly line - it is a Corolla with Chevy name plates. Strike the Prizm, no matter how good it's ratings.

I next found out that the newer Escorts sport a Mazda engine, are built using a Mazda chassis, and produced in Mexico. Bye, bye!

So, I set my sights on Saturn, and found my 99 SL1. And I love it!

But, had it not been American made, I would not have considered it.

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Unless you study, most folks don't know where their car was built, or for that matter, where most of the parts come from.

I bet a lot of folks think a Honda Accord is made in Japan and a VW Beetle comes from Germany.

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