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Old 05-18-2005, 08:52 PM   #1
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i have a 95 sl2 and i was turning a corner and as i was pulling out it died as if i didnt know how to drive standard... automatically i tried poping the clutch while the momentum was still good... well no good.. so i pulled over tried to start it.. and now just grr rr rrr rrr rrr ....turns and turns with not start...now mind you it died while in motion.. if that means anything.. full is getting to the fuel rail.. has a nice strong battery... switched out the damn cps now wondering if it is the fuel pump... or that pcm thingy... i already did thing i saw in the forum to check the fuel pump ... i turned the key to on... for 3-4 sec. while it was priming and did it 3 times and then tried starting it... no start so your guess is as good as mine what the hell is it??? and i need my car so i appreciate any and all input

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Old 05-18-2005, 09:22 PM   #2
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It would be a big help to let the forum know if the plugs are getting a strong spark when the engine is cranking. You could check it either at the coil pack or even pull one of the boots off one of the plugs and put a spare plug on the boot and ground the plug while cranking. I am not a Tech , but I think this would help others give you some other things to check out.

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Old 05-18-2005, 10:08 PM   #3
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I had a similar problem with my 93 SL2. My car would occassionally crank with out starting. After a while, it would start. Next, it began stalling out as I was driving. I changed the CPS and the ECTS, with no success. I took the car to my mechanic, and he discovered that when the car was running, if he tapped the ignition module the car would stall out. He changed the module and it solved the problem.

Also, my wifes 99 SW2 would crank with out starting once in a while. Then, the car would present this problem more and more frequently until it finally would not start. This turned out to be the PCM. Once it was replaced, the car was fine.

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Old 05-19-2005, 11:51 AM   #4
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forgot to say that it will start while spraying gas in the intake.... so spark is good

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Old 05-19-2005, 01:26 PM   #5
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It sounds like your fuel filter or fuel pump if it will start with fuel.

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Old 05-19-2005, 01:33 PM   #6
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Turn off the radio and a/c. Turn the key to run but not to start. Listen to see if you can hear the hum of the fuel pump. That's the easiest way to see if it's the pump. You might also have a bad/clogged injector but I don't think that would just cause it to run rough, not a complete shutdown and no restart.

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Old 05-19-2005, 01:39 PM   #7
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i can hear the pump prime itself when turned on... so i am thinking maybe its the pcm.. what do the rest of you think.. that would cause the fuel injectors not to shoot fuel right?? because thats the only thing thats not happening

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Old 05-19-2005, 02:04 PM   #8
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assume the pcm last, double check sensor connections, connections to pcm, etc...

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Old 05-19-2005, 02:06 PM   #9
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Pull the ECM 'B' fuse (in the underhood junction box if I'm correct,) for five minutes. It should clear out any 'programming' that's in the computer. Put it back in and see if it starts then. It should go back to defaults then. If not I think anybody with a test tool should be able to tell if it's toast or not.

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Old 05-19-2005, 08:10 PM   #10
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i have checked and checked the sensor connections and connections of everything else nothing that i can see .. i have disconnected and reconnected to be sure of good connection 6x over nothing lose or burnt or anything else

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Old 05-20-2005, 01:06 AM   #11
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I am currently experiencing this very same problem with a '94 SC2. It even happened the exact same way...........while accelerating it just died..........and hasnt started since.

I had a mechanic look at it.........he said it has spark......and I can hear the fuel pump. He said it was most likely the pcm. I replaced that and still nothing. Of course, it was a salvage part......so who knows if it works.

I'm very curious to see what fixes your car........maybe the same thing is wrong with mine. Whoever figures it out first, post it here!

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