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Old 02-15-2005, 04:40 PM   #1
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Is any one else experiencing a delay when shifting the 2005 5 speed auto trans (V6-FWD) from reverse to drive? I back out of my driveway, then select drive, but there is a hesitation before it engages. If i press on the accelerator when it does kick in there is a thump. Normal? It makes one think before pulling out into traffic.

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Old 02-15-2005, 04:47 PM   #2
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Is any one else experiencing a delay when shifting the 2005 5 speed auto trans (V6-FWD) from reverse to drive? I back out of my driveway, then select drive, but there is a hesitation before it engages. If i press on the accelerator when it does kick in there is a thump. Normal? It makes one think before pulling out into traffic.

We have a AWD 2004 Vue and we have the same problem.

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Old 02-15-2005, 05:11 PM   #3
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Same problem here.
Between the dealer telling me to wait 3 seconds before starting the car because it will turn over and not engage, and the transmission hesitation, and my AWD system that seems more like a traction control assist, the car is starting to irrate me

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:10 PM   #4
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Default Re: auto trans delay

Same problem with my '04 AWD V-6 it has been like that since day 1 and dealer said it was normal. I just learned to live with it.

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:33 PM   #5
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My 72 GS does that when it's a quart low on trans fluid.

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:04 PM   #6
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I've had that problem from day one as well on my '04 AWD 6, and as far as being low on fluid, that should be impossible because it's a sealed tranny, i.e. fluid doesn't need to be changed.

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:14 PM   #7
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Default Re: auto trans delay

Same here 2004 FWD V6...

I think the transmisstion in general is a bit slow..including kicking down into a passing gear or in corners. I initially thought it was just because I'm used to a manual.

Must be that great Honda engineering...

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:23 PM   #8
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How long is the hesitation? One second? Five seconds? I've found most automatic transmissions I've driven had a slight hesitation going from reverse to drive.

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:58 PM   #9
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How long is the hesitation? One second? Five seconds? I've found most automatic transmissions I've driven had a slight hesitation going from reverse to drive.
I would say less than a second for me (a second is longer than you'd think for something like this)..but other transmissions I've driven seem twice as quick

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Old 02-15-2005, 09:38 PM   #10
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Yes noticed the same thing on my 04 and 05. I think Honda puts a delay in so as not to stress their "weak link" trannies, to minimize roll when shifting.

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Old 02-15-2005, 09:41 PM   #11
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Default Re: auto trans delay

I think it's the computer that is causing the hesitation, and that it is intentional to prevent damage to the drivetrain. You can actually feel the transmission change gears, but the throttle doesn't work for a split second.

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Old 02-15-2005, 11:20 PM   #12
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I've honestly never noticed this as a problem. When going from forward to reverse, or vice-versa, I've got my foot on the brake, and by the time I'd move my foot to the gas pedal I guess everything is 'willing and able'.

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Old 02-15-2005, 11:24 PM   #13
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I've had that problem from day one as well on my '04 AWD 6, and as far as being low on fluid, that should be impossible because it's a sealed tranny, i.e. fluid doesn't need to be changed.
I certainly didn't mean to compare my 1968 Turbo 400 to a new Honda transmission.

As far as sealed, I can't understand how trans fluid never needs to be changed. Even manual transmissions have a fluid change interval. Maybe Honda knows the trans will need replacing before the fluid.

There's a thread around here somewhere with a pic of the filler tube for the trans. The fluid got in there somehow.

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Old 02-16-2005, 07:24 AM   #14
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it's funny but actually seems to engage twice, once right away when you select drive there is a 'bump' felt but vue will not go forward until a second 'bump' a split second later, then everything is fine. I guess it is to protect the driveline from those who shift into Drive while still rolling forward in reverse, but it can be nerve racking when pulling into traffic.

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Old 02-16-2005, 09:27 AM   #15
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it's funny but actually seems to engage twice, once right away when you select drive there is a 'bump' felt but vue will not go forward until a second 'bump' a split second later, then everything is fine. I guess it is to protect the driveline from those who shift into Drive while still rolling forward in reverse, but it can be nerve racking when pulling into traffic.
I was just going to say the same thing. When I go from reverse to drive, I feel an immediate thump with no delay, but I have to wait a full second before I feel the second thump. After the second thump the car engages into drive.
I never get any hesitation when downshifting, it seems to be right on. I have also noticed less gear hunting and smoother shifts since I flushed out the fluid and replaced it with Amsoil.

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Old 02-16-2005, 10:45 AM   #16
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I was just going to say the same thing. When I go from reverse to drive, I feel an immediate thump with no delay, but I have to wait a full second before I feel the second thump. After the second thump the car engages into drive.
I never get any hesitation when downshifting, it seems to be right on. I have also noticed less gear hunting and smoother shifts since I flushed out the fluid and replaced it with Amsoil.
My guess is that the two bumps you guys are hearing is the coming out of reverse and then into drive. I haven't noticed two bumps myself although it sounds familiar. I also have never noticed a delay when shifting from reverse to drive . . . this may be due to my own hesitation though. I've always been a stickler about having the car fully stopped. I get a similar feeling to fingernails on a chalkboard when I am in my girlfriends car and she switches from rev to drive while the car is still rolling backward a bit. Owwweee, poor car!

I will say one thing I have noticed though is a hesitation going into reverse from park! Often when backing out of parking spots this happens to me. I get in the car, start it up, put it in reverse and on occasion reverse does not engauge until a half a second after I've started pressing the gas. Overall the delay is probably between 1 and 1.5 seconds, but this is bad cause the effect is sometimes similar to "Dropping the clutch". I am going to ask my service guy about it when I go in for the suspension recall. I seem to recall a TSB for a delay on reverse somewhere . . . can anyone confirm that?

Otherwise I think the tranny is quite nice, shifts are very smooth, downshifts aren't great but on par or a bit above average. My only gripe is more of a personal opinion that it could shift to overdrive a bit earlier then it does, but thats my economy over performance view.

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Old 02-16-2005, 11:16 AM   #17
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My 72 GS does that when it's a quart low on trans fluid.
You've got a 72 Buick? Sweet. My father does as well. Red w/ black vinyl top. He's put a lot of work into it. Goes to car shows regularly in the summer. Funny thing is it's his daily driver in good weather!

Back on topic...

I've noticed a bit of lag on my 03 VUE. And that's a totally different engine/transmission.

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