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Old 04-05-2004, 01:40 PM   #1
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1996 Saturn SL 1, automatic ....just clocked 65 K on the odometer.

One of the first things I did when I got it a couple of years ago was convert it over to Mobile 1 - 5w-30 and it has seen changes every 3-4k.

I was talking to an old college buddy who has a 1998 911 Carrera that also uses Mobile 1 (15 qts!!!...so he says). He told me the dealer recommended he change the oil every 15K...

What oil change interval makes the most sense when using M-1 and Napa "Gold" oil filters?


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Old 04-05-2004, 02:15 PM   #2
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6K is the recomended maximum by mobil1

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Old 04-05-2004, 02:19 PM   #3
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I still do it at 3k or earlier w/ mobil one.

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Old 04-05-2004, 02:20 PM   #4
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in a Saturn you need to change the oil and filer either every 3000 miles or 6000 miles if you meet the criteria. look in the saturn owners handbook.

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Old 04-05-2004, 03:47 PM   #5
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I would stick with a 3000 interval, unless Saturn provides someother loophole for certain driving conditions. Oil is oil (at equivalent grades and forumulations) so Mobile one won't magically allow you to dramatically increase your interval under the same driving conditions.

Having perused this forum for a couple of weeks, it seems that the saturn motor, DOHC at least, is more suseptible to the oil change interval to prevent timing chain wear.

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Old 04-05-2004, 04:07 PM   #6
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If you're really interested in finding out, send a sample of your 3,000 mile old Mobil 1 to Blackstone Labs and have them do the full analysis. You'll get a report telling you the content of the oil (good for determining wear and other engine issues) as well as info on the remaining life left in the oil. Chances are it'll show to have many miles of life left.

btw, the DOHC timing chain tensioner doesn't really care how old the oil is, just that it's at the right level. Keep your oil topped off and you'll be fine.

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Old 04-05-2004, 05:10 PM   #7
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I have been using nothing but Mobil1 for years but despite it being synthetic, I still try to maintain the mfg. recommended intervals just to be on the safe side. Keeping it topped off is key to clean oil too. I use K&N gold filter, after 3 months, the oil is still clear.

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Old 04-05-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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It is a big misconception that you can judge the condition of the oil by looking at it. You can't.

When oil turns darker, it's because it's carrying contaminents in suspension, which is what it's supposed to do. These are particles smaller than the stuff your filter takes out. If the oil remains clear all the time it could mean there's a bunch of stuff stuck to your engine's internals and the oil isn't keeping it clean. Or not. There's no way to know for sure without having the oil analyzed. marx404 I'd bet the ranch your engine is perfectly fine, this is just general info.

I've sent jet black oil to Blackstone and gotten back nothing but excellent results. They called my '92 SC, with well over 100k miles, "one of the best wearing Saturns we've seen all year".

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Old 04-05-2004, 05:19 PM   #9
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No car is the same, if you really want to extend the interval, Blacksone Labs is a good place to get a used oil analysis done. They'll recommend how long you can keep the oil in before a change. I've gone between 3000 and 5000 miles on my SL1 with Mobil 1. My oil gets dirty faster than other cars and I don't feel comfortable extending it more than that.

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Old 04-05-2004, 10:55 PM   #10
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If you're really interested in finding out, send a sample of your 3,000 mile old Mobil 1 to Blackstone Labs and have them do the full analysis. You'll get a report telling you the content of the oil (good for determining wear and other engine issues) as well as info on the remaining life left in the oil. Chances are it'll show to have many miles of life left.

btw, the DOHC timing chain tensioner doesn't really care how old the oil is, just that it's at the right level. Keep your oil topped off and you'll be fine.

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How much does it cost for the lab work?

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Old 04-05-2004, 11:18 PM   #11
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$20 for the basic test. This shows wear metal and contaminate levels. $10 extra for TBN (Total Base Number) test. TBN indicates how much life is left in the oil

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Old 04-06-2004, 08:59 AM   #12
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Every 5K miles, makes it easy to remember to change it.

BTW, my LW has the oil condition sensor (not a real oil analysis, but tracks engine revs, trip lengths and temps) to tell you when to change the oil and the sensor is based on dino oil, not syn which protects better. I've had the "change oil soon" light come on 1 time in 65K miles with the 5K change interval so I figure if 5K plus is good enough for the Saturn warranty using dino oil, it's mor'n good enough with Mobil 1.

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