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View Poll Results: Should Saturn Graft the Front of the Quad Coupe onto the ION Sedan?
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:59 PM   #21
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You know, the rounded roofline might not even be so bad if they de-emphasized the roof rails. If they put on smaller roof rails, and did something to soften the appearance of that C pillar, it would look pretty sharp!

I'd also make the back of the car less "droopy" by giving it smaller tail lights, with the lines accentuated in the horizontal instead of the vertical. Think Audi A4. (I think the ION looks too tall in its present form.)

Another thing I would do is take out that gouge in the side of the car, which looks like an afterthought, and replace it with a more subtle "swoosh" lower down, like on the S Series.

Then, you'd have an ION sedan that I think looks pretty cool, at least on the outside! The interior needs a total makeover as well.

I still wouldn't buy one, though, unless they gave it a fully independent suspension and 4 wheel disc brakes. It's the principle as much as anything else - I refuse to replace my car with one that has a beam axle rear suspension and drum brakes!

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Old 11-05-2003, 12:33 AM   #22
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Oh wow! I was also skeptical at first, but now that I see it I think that looks great! Of the front ends, I like the QC's better and of the rear ends I like the Sedan's better. IMO, I think this concept splendidly combines the best of both worlds.

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Old 11-05-2003, 12:42 AM   #23
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Yes. It looks better than the quad coupe. I'd almost consider buying it, provided it came with wheels and tires like that.

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Old 11-05-2003, 07:58 AM   #24
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I'm guessing that, in theory, this wouldn't be all that hard to build because of using rouphly the same front end but different skins.

I'm guessing that all you wold really need is a whole sedan or one with a lightly dammaged front end and just the undammaged front of a QC. these cars have been out for over a year now so I'm sure that someone somewhere has destroyed one of these already.

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Old 11-05-2003, 08:05 PM   #25
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The sedan takes on a more sporting character with the QC's snout grafted on. This would not be an expensive alteration and probably help boost sedan sales.


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Old 11-05-2003, 09:43 PM   #26
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I also think it looks better, but lets keep a little difference between the cars.

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Old 11-05-2003, 10:54 PM   #27
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I think the sedan looks better with the QC nose, and that the QC nose has alot of visual features which tie it in with the S-Series and first gen L-Series. If I saw an Ion sedan a year ago without any badging, I would have never guessed it was a Saturn by looking at it from a distance.

But I like how Saturn has kept the styling between the sedans and coupes different in the past (well at least the up level coupes )

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Old 11-06-2003, 07:50 AM   #28
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Yes and more needs to be done. Sales are way off considering this car replaced the rather bland S series. The Redline is a cool idea but way to costly for most buyers to consider and maintain.

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Old 11-06-2003, 10:07 AM   #29
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I kinda like the differentiation between the two models. Leave that there.

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Old 11-06-2003, 06:05 PM   #30
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Think that would be sweet if they did that.

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Old 11-06-2003, 11:11 PM   #31
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That would be an great improvement from that metal toothed grill on the sedan

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Old 11-07-2003, 07:47 AM   #32
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They should graft the rear end of the coupe to the sedan. I like the front of the sedan, but the Altima trunklid has GOT to go...

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Old 11-07-2003, 12:44 PM   #33
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When I first saw the QC, I thought Saturn should have put that front on the sedan. However, as time went buy, I started to like the sedan better. To me it looks more like a Saturn then the QC. I don't think of the QC's front as more aggressive. It looks more sporty. And since when is more aggressive automatically better anyway? The QC has a totally different effect then the sedan. I think they should leave it that way.

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Old 11-07-2003, 03:54 PM   #34
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I always thought they should do SOMETHING about that front end. It sticks out like a sore thumb.. Ugh. The front end of the quad coupe is really nice. It has an aggressive stance and doesn't look so bulky.. It's very sporty looking. Not saying that aggressive is for everyone, but it is definately for me.. *lol*
If I had to buy a Saturn tomorrow, and all of the S-series were gone, I'd go for the Quad Coupe or the VUE, but the sedan looks sad..

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Old 11-08-2003, 04:06 PM   #35
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That's the way it should have been done from the beginning!

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Old 11-11-2003, 09:08 PM   #36
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The 20 foot view looks pretty cool, but doesn't everyone see the hacked nature of this conversion? This idea REQUIRES new front fenders to be halfway saleable. The QCs front wheel lips have about twice the flat surface area around the wheel openings as the sedan's, so the front fenders look like the junkyard scrounge job they are. Also notice the mismatch between the hood/fender and the door in the mirror area (where does the thin spear that runs along the sedan's front doors go? OOPS.). Im sure there is also a triangular gap big enough to put your fingers through at the front of the door swoosh. This "concept" is one of those neat ideas that someone dreamed up but didn't have the common sense or money to do the job right. This is an idea worth pursuing, but not a "do-it-at-home" kind of job.

At first glance it DOES look more aggressive, just needs more refinement.

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Old 11-12-2003, 08:57 PM   #37
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I have a couple more criticisms, if you'll indulge me! Those side marker lights look a little too orange, know what I mean? Can't you still have amber lights without making them look so, um, amber?

And speaking of amber lights, they should have amber turn signals on the rear! The S Series did, but Saturn obviously made the ION's tail lamps use only one kind of bulb to save a few bucks. The right thing to do would be to go back to amber rear flashers.

But the main thing I wanted to add to my list of changes is the following:

I was looking at an ION today, and it struck me that the side panels are very flat. They don't bulge much like those on the S Series, and that contributes to the "slab sided" look. The ION is taller than the S Series, so that last thing it needs is flat sides that accentuate the height.

The front fenders seem okay on this version, but it's the same old flat sides from the doors on back. I wouldn't make them overly bulging, but just a little more muscular, like the S Series. (I think the first generation SC is still one of the best looking cars out there!)

I do like the wheels on that ION, though!

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Old 11-13-2003, 10:50 PM   #38
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I think it looks odd- it would really have to grow on me. But maybe it's a "color issue"- I'm a Silver Car type of guy- show me one on silver and I may drool.

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Saturn needs to do whatever it takes to make the ION a hit. Saturn needs make the ION more agressive .They need to go after the youth market with performance. They need to be able to compete with the likes of Honda and Accura as far as speed and handling are concerned and the key is they need to do it for less which has always been a Saturn trademark. The Redline is a step in the right direction. Saturn seems to be on there own because the magazine publishes will not lift a finger to help,they always seem to just hold the bashing section in their articles for Saturn products.

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Old 11-14-2003, 12:03 PM   #40
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No way; i like it just the way it is.

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