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Old 11-11-2018, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default Tire recommendations?

My last purchase was the cheapest - $40 Douglas tires at Walmart. 195-60-15. What I don't like is if you slam on the brakes (even worse if the road is wet), the car slips and skids.

I'd like a tire that has a softer compound that will grip good when braking. Should be an all season tire.

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Old 11-11-2018, 10:26 PM   #2
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I've had great results from General Altimax Arctic tires. They're hard to find and advertised as a dedicated winter tire but I've had more grip from them than most all-season tires in 70f+ temps while still keeping amazing grip in the snow without the quick wear normally associated with winter compound tires in the summer (25mi each way to work 6 days a week, plus another 60-70mi round trips 4-5 days a week).

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Old 11-11-2018, 10:53 PM   #3
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General RT43s, in H speed rating.

These are 51 psi max tires, the OEM tires were 35 psi max, so you need to add 5-7 psi over the door sticker inflation recommendations..

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Old 11-11-2018, 11:12 PM   #4
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I've run Pirelli's on my SL2 with one set of Yokohamas as well. HUGELY recommend the Pirellis. Currently running the P4 all season tires and have been very satisfied with them for the past couple years. They aren't cheap, but well worth it to me.

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Old 11-12-2018, 09:29 AM   #5
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General RT43s, in H speed rating.

These are 51 psi max tires, the OEM tires were 35 psi max, so you need to add 5-7 psi over the door sticker inflation recommendations..
+1 - Love these. They are well rated on Consumer Reports as the # 3 recommended tire. They have a really good price point too.

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Old 11-12-2018, 01:54 PM   #6
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General RT43s, in H speed rating.

These are 51 psi max tires, the OEM tires were 35 psi max, so you need to add 5-7 psi over the door sticker inflation recommendations..
You can absolutely do that if you want it to ride like a stagecoach in order to get slightly better gas mileage and have tires that wear unevenly in the middle.

My go to tire for wet/winter is Continental Extreme Contact DWS. They are not cheap, but they grip VERY well and are not so soft that they wear excessively.

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Old 11-12-2018, 07:52 PM   #7
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coincidental timing.
I just mounted a set of General AltiMAX RT43, in H speed rating. I bought them off Tire Rack ($64 plus $14 shipping each) as they received excellent reviews for overall conditions.
Today was the first trip to work and back. First thing I noticed was that they were quite and very smooth riding.
But, they are new tires, I will reserve full judgement until a full year of weather conditions go by.
These tires replaced my Michelin which were good tires also.

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Old 11-12-2018, 08:41 PM   #8
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Actually I have 44 PSI in the rear, and 35 in the front...

Still rides great, and no wearing in the middle...

Got 42 MPG at 74 MPH when I went to Marion, Virginia, and back...

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Old 11-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #9
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Default Re: Tire recommendations?

While they're probably out of most individuals price range, the Michelin Defender tires are the best I've ever used on a non-performance passenger vehicle. You won't get the 90k mileage claim they have, but they are the best all season tire I've ever used in dry, wet, and snow.

Here is some live data from other owners, it's not just me:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...ay.jsp?type=ST

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Old 11-12-2018, 10:20 PM   #10
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^^ I agree. I have defender sets on the Saturn (second set, first set lasted 70K on gravel roads), a Malibu Maxx, Ford Edge, Nissan Rogue and the newer Suburban. The Dodge pickup and the old Suburban are only plated for 'farm use' and have other grade E tires.
Totally sold on Michelin Defenders, after having replaced other brand name ones.

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Old 11-15-2018, 02:27 PM   #11
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These are my favorite tires:
https://www.lesschwab.com/reputation...leFlow&start=1

I LOVE them. They are not the cheapest (I paid $491 for all four) but not the most expensive either; I love their performance and they are very smooth, and they do great in the wet weather here in Oregon. Love love love them. 80,000 mile warranty.

(The Reputation Tire from Les Schwab)

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Old 11-15-2018, 04:17 PM   #12
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Interesting, I cannot even locate who manufacturers the Reputation tire.

That brand is not even listed on NSTSA!
https://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle-Shoppers/Tires-Rating

Buyer beware of off branded tires.

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Old 11-15-2018, 04:31 PM   #13
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Hi everyone,

1999 SC-1, long time Saturn owner, bought this car recently to run miles up on, commuting to work 60 miles each way on mostly 2-lane back roads in Central Wisconsin.

I'm not a 'car guy' but I'm mechanically competent. I would like to know how P185/70R14's would work on my car...would that be suitable? I can save about 100 bucks by going with this size instead of the standard P175/70r14 tires. From what I understand, these would be a little wider and a little taller.

Speed rating T., load index 88 All Seasons from "Supermax" is what I'm considering.

Thoughts?

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Old 11-15-2018, 05:15 PM   #14
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I would like to know how P185/70R14's would work on my car...would that be suitable? I can save about 100 bucks by going with this size instead of the standard P175/70r14 tires. From what I understand, these would be a little wider and a little taller.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:49 PM   #15
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attached comparison done at
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They say that plus or minus 3% from the OEM size is acceptable. At 2.3% you should be good.

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Interesting, I cannot even locate who manufacturers the Reputation tire.

That brand is not even listed on NSTSA!
https://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle-Shoppers/Tires-Rating

Buyer beware of off branded tires.
Then don't use them I guess; I have had excellent luck with them for years, that's all I have to go by. I've never had one flat tire or anything. Honestly, the only tires I've ever had terrible luck with were michelins (on my minivan) they were horrible. I guess it's your mileage may vary (pardon the pun).

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Old 11-15-2018, 07:07 PM   #17
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So now that I've had a minute to sit down.

The tires I posted are Mazama Brand.
https://www.mazamatires.com/

This is copied and pasted from the NHTSA ratings:

Tire Brand: MAZAMA
Tire Line Construction Size Traction Rating Temp Rating Wear Rating

REPUTATION NLW-3 (T rating) Radial All sizes A B 800

https://www.safercar.gov/nhtsa-safer...ure=B&wear=400

Sorry for not including that earlier. Anyhoo, I don't really feel like arguing, and I'm obviously not one of the cool kids, so I'll go to another thread.

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Sorry Ratwhisper, I had never heard of MAZAMA tires. That tire you have is only sold about 2000 miles away from me. Closest dealer is Colorado. Its a registered trademark by your retailer/dealer chain, Les Schwab Tires.
No idea who actually is the manufacturer though.

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You could try the SC2 recommended tires, which are H rated for speed, temp, treadwear and can be all-season tires. 195-60R15 tires are fairly common. Last tire job i had on my SC2 ran about $500 with a mail-in rebate.

H-Rated tires will wear out treadlife quicker, but will provide more grip on dry conditions. Wet and ice are irrelevant regardless of tire compounds, since wet tires will not heat up to the same temp as a tire that is rotating on dry surfaces. Less Friction = Less Heat

For better grip on wet or icy surfaces, it is tread design and weight against the tires that make a difference. tires designed for "Mud & Snow" use are better suited for adverse conditions.

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Old 11-20-2018, 03:23 PM   #20
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Ok, maybe I'm asking too much?

Today I was driving about 35mph, and decided to hit the brakes to make a right turn and slid on the wet pavement.

I guess I'm just not going to get grip with a light car and wet road.

FWIW, I see a large number of Saturns with front end damage. The new grey one I bought had a front end mishap.

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