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Old 10-20-2018, 06:06 AM   #1
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My 95 SL2 will be 25 years old next year. Will Saturns be a classic, collectible car? Are the 91-93 cars appreciating in price or considered collectible? Iím the original owner and it was/is my 1st new car, so Iím emotionally attached. Before the SL2, I had a 67 Mustang which I sold when it became impossible to smog. I somewhat regret selling it since, even if I had paid to garage it, it may have been worth it.

Iím tempted to keep the SL2, but Iím not in a position to work on it myself, so maintenance & repairs costs will far exceed book value of roughly $800. My friends laugh - they donít think Saturns will ever be classic like Mustangs.

Iíd like to keep it another year as a 2nd car, but could see where itís a bad investment if theyíre just going to slowly disappear. As it is, I see fewer Saturns on the road now than there were Mustangs when I sold mine. Iíve Googled to no results any plans on a Saturn museum, so I think Saturn really is a cult following, not the mass appeal that made the Mustang and Camaro such popular classics.

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Old 10-20-2018, 09:00 PM   #2
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Will Saturn's be seen as classic/collectible cars? That's a tough question to answer and, of course, any reply would guessing at best. I suppose the best way to ascertain what might occur with this car line as it enters the "Cars of Particular Interest" age group would be to compare it with models which had similar sales and general public interest. As much as it pains me to say this, perhaps comparisons should be made with AMC's unusual models of the '70's - the Gremlin and the Pacer come to mind. Saturn, too, was an unusual car line - especially relating to the S-Series. Several later models, like my LS1, were hybrid US-European cars which didn't have near the following of the S-Series cars.

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Old 10-26-2018, 02:54 AM   #3
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I seriously doubt they will become classics. They just don't fit any of the normal criteria. There will always be a small portion of people who may want to own or collect them but that doesn't make them a classic.

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Old 10-27-2018, 12:20 AM   #4
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Default Re: Will Saturns be classic cars?

The Ion Red Line, as Saturn's performance model, should be Saturn's first classic when it becomes eligible in 2029, along with the Sky and Sky Red Lines, though by definition, any surviving 1991-1993 Saturn models are already classics, with 1994 added to that category next year.

After that, the Vue Red Line, with its novel Honda 3.5L V-6, should be next. The garden-variety models - S-series, L-series, Ion, Aura, Vue, Vue Green Line, Outlook, etc., will simply become rolling curiosities, much like finding a surviving Pacer, Matador, Eagle, Gremlin, is today.

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Old 10-27-2018, 05:59 PM   #5
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The 8 2010 skyís should be. Iíve seen some of the 21 2010 solstices for sale for over 60k.

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Old 10-30-2018, 11:35 AM   #6
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There will always be a following.

There are still collectors of Studebakers, AMCs, Hudsons and Nashes. Even Yugos and Trabants have their fans.

I never thought I would see the day repro manufacturers would make parts for old Valiants or Falcons.

Saturns have an interesting back story, unique construction, simplicity and enjoyed [and still enjoy] a loyal fan base.

I have seen so many columnists, all the way back to the 50s claim that their current decade of cars will "never be collectible". And they've been wrong.

With the internet, more enthusiasts of a particular marque can connect with other fans, find obscure parts, buy and sell cars.

The arrival of a 25 year old K Car at a car show even produced articles that memorialized the event at the time.

The usual cut off for car club or show participation seems to be 25 years. Show up with your car and what others think can blow.

At a local car show [huge, actually] a couple of weeks ago, were a 92 Impala and a 94 Olds Cutlass convertible.

There is room for all kinds of cars in the hobby.

I'd walk across the show field to see an early S Series as opposed to yet another Cobra clone or the common as dirt Chevy, Ford, Mopar Big Block jacked up 1 of none cars. They all have their fans. I grew up with them. I've seen them over and over again.

But those stripper 6 cylinder oldies or cars from somewhere other than the Big Three [or independent of] will hook me every time.

Don't wait for permission or validation. The snobs will never approve, but they won't be having the fun or the connection you'll have with your Saturn.

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Old 10-30-2018, 11:40 AM   #7
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The Ion Red Line, as Saturn's performance model, should be Saturn's first classic when it becomes eligible in 2029, along with the Sky and Sky Red Lines, though by definition, any surviving 1991-1993 Saturn models are already classics, with 1994 added to that category next year.

After that, the Vue Red Line, with its novel Honda 3.5L V-6, should be next. The garden-variety models - S-series, L-series, Ion, Aura, Vue, Vue Green Line, Outlook, etc., will simply become rolling curiosities, much like finding a surviving Pacer, Matador, Eagle, Gremlin, is today.
Exactly. Rolling curiosity.

Part of the reason I scored the "blue bubble roof rails and interior trim for my ION.

Have you ever seen these in the wild ?

I'll be like the the old Uncle still driving his 59 Studebaker Lark. In 1990.

Just check back in 2030.

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Old 11-19-2018, 02:43 PM   #8
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The Ion Red Line, as Saturn's performance model, should be Saturn's first classic when it becomes eligible in 2029, along with the Sky and Sky Red Lines, though by definition, any surviving 1991-1993 Saturn models are already classics, with 1994 added to that category next year.

After that, the Vue Red Line, with its novel Honda 3.5L V-6, should be next. The garden-variety models - S-series, L-series, Ion, Aura, Vue, Vue Green Line, Outlook, etc., will simply become rolling curiosities, much like finding a surviving Pacer, Matador, Eagle, Gremlin, is today.
I disagree. The S-Series first model year was unique (1991), of which- any of the 48K made for the first model year if they still exist, are now eligible for Historical Plates (The 25 year mark in most states). There were plenty of limited production S-Series Cars- The 1994 and 1999 Homecoming Editions (3500 and 4000 made- respectively, The 2001 Bumblebee with black roof (99 of them built), the Red Hot and White Hot Cars...

Those that are in Car circles, will know the history of the Car, as well as Saturn....

People pooped on The Corvair... and now? It's a collectible car that is sought after...

http://www.collectorcarmarket.com/co...t-Corvair.html

https://www.corvair.org/

The websites above- are what I think would be cool to happen with S-Series cars... maybe it's wishful thinking, on my part... ???

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Old 12-30-2018, 12:57 AM   #9
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I'm not sure exactly where but I did read that the early Saturn's were now considered classics. Their style and forward-thinking we're revolutionary despite what people think. Unfortunately their evolution wasn't enough to entice the amount of people to purchase the vehicle like the manufacturer was looking for. for the short. Of time that they were around I believe they made an incredible impact. And in this volatile market that we are now seeing I will be surprised if we see any American car resembling what we remember around for long. As long as I don't get into a major accident with either of my cars day should the economical enough to drive for a very long time. Oh and by the way I own a Studebaker and those cars don't compare in performance to are Saturn's.

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I seriously doubt they will become classics. They just don't fit any of the normal criteria. There will always be a small portion of people who may want to own or collect them but that doesn't make them a classic.
I agree. There's just too many of them to have any type of "exclusivity" factor in and that's what ultimately drives the price of collectible cars.

I don't see any evidence of prices going up. They've more or less stabilized for the oldest Saturns in the low single digit thousands for the cleanest examples.

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The Ion Red Line, as Saturn's performance model, should be Saturn's first classic when it becomes eligible in 2029, along with the Sky and Sky Red Lines, though by definition, any surviving 1991-1993 Saturn models are already classics, with 1994 added to that category next year.

After that, the Vue Red Line, with its novel Honda 3.5L V-6, should be next. The garden-variety models - S-series, L-series, Ion, Aura, Vue, Vue Green Line, Outlook, etc., will simply become rolling curiosities, much like finding a surviving Pacer, Matador, Eagle, Gremlin, is today.
Agree. The Redline stuff has the best chance of seeing collectible interest.

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