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Old 08-21-2018, 07:46 AM   #1
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My new car arrives this weekend, which spells the end for my Saturn. 17 years and 315,000 miles - a long and noble life. Couldn't have done it without the advice and encouragement from the fine members of this site, both past and present.

I'd like to see the Saturn go to a Saturnfan to either keep it going or use it for parts. It is a daily driver, but needs some work to make it a pleasant and safe one. PM me if you would like a $300 SC-1 that can be driven home with the a/c on.

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It'd be a bit of a haul to Michigan...

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Old 08-21-2018, 10:07 AM   #3
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Yes, that would be a long trip. The car would probably make it though, and you could impress your friends with how pristine the underside of a 17 year old car that's never seen road salt can be!!!

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If you were closer and I had fewer cars lined up needing work in the driveway, I'd be tempted just for the rust free body

All the rust prone parts would get an immediate cleaning and POR15 coating

What's the new car? We're at a point where my wife is considering us going down to one registered/insured car in a few years, so it would need to be an automatic.

I'm opposed because I like having a backup car.

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Old 08-21-2018, 11:44 AM   #5
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Bought a 2018 Elantra GT, electric blue, 2.0 liter, 6 sp manual. The manual is hard to find, so the car is coming from out west somewhere, hence the wait.

A spare car is nice. My old Crown Vic has served that role for several years, but it too may go soon.

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If you were closer and I had fewer cars lined up needing work in the driveway, I'd be tempted just for the rust free body

All the rust prone parts would get an immediate cleaning and POR15 coating

What's the new car? We're at a point where my wife is considering us going down to one registered/insured car in a few years, so it would need to be an automatic.

I'm opposed because I like having a backup car.
Tell her my moms family's car ('16 chevy equinox clone) just spit out its oil pump after 100k miles. I had to drag mine out storage after the backup-backup car I was borrowing shredded a rear tire and a tie rod end is /\ this close from making it on the news in the same week. Now they have no vehicles at the moment besides a hobby wrangler set up for dune running.

Always have a second vehicle, even if it kept in storage unit, storage insurance is pretty cheap and dosen't cost as much as 'just getting insurance' when you need to bring it to road legal status, plate is what $80 a year?

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Tell her my moms family's car ('16 chevy equinox clone) just spit out its oil pump after 100k miles. I had to drag mine out storage after the backup-backup car I was borrowing shredded a rear tire and a tie rod end is /\ this close from making it on the news in the same week. Now they have no vehicles at the moment besides a hobby wrangler set up for dune running.

Always have a second vehicle, even if it kept in storage unit, storage insurance is pretty cheap and dosen't cost as much as 'just getting insurance' when you need to bring it to road legal status, plate is what $80 a year?
Have to be careful what the owner of said storage unit does to clean up the place... (fairly local to me) http://www.wcax.com/content/news/Inv...490933681.html
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Bought a 2018 Elantra GT, electric blue, 2.0 liter, 6 sp manual. The manual is hard to find, so the car is coming from out west somewhere, hence the wait.
Nice! I think I mentioned sitting in an Elantra back the last time I went car shopping and was pretty impressed. My wife just rented on last weekend and liked it (I had to drive the van because I as driving several kids to an amusement park; the SC2 would not have been suitable). I think an auto trans Elantra is something we could live with, since Ford and Chrysler apparently are gong to focus on trucks/SUVs


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Tell her my moms family's car ('16 chevy equinox clone) just spit out its oil pump after 100k miles. . . . Always have a second vehicle, even if it kept in storage unit, storage insurance is pretty cheap and dosen't cost as much as 'just getting insurance' when you need to bring it to road legal status, plate is what $80 a year?
Equinox 4-banger was a car I considered, decent mpg for the size, but I keep hearing horror stories.

Yeah, I agree with you on a 2nd car. Plate is cheap, but it is a hassle because you have to have insurance on the car to renew. I know you can cancel right after but it is a PITA.

My wife is considering changing insurance now, too, because they kept screwing up our car insurance. She was going to work on that until her mom got sick (recovering now). We found out they never canceled the insurance on our '02 Caravan, so we've been paying for it for several months, but that I have been driving my '02 Saturn without insurance for several months because they cancelled that insurance instead. The customer service rep and her manager listened to the recordings from when my wife called to change the insurance and agreed what my wife requested was very clear, so they have no idea what happened.

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Equinox 4-banger was a car I considered, decent mpg for the size, but I keep hearing horror stories.

Yeah, I agree with you on a 2nd car. Plate is cheap, but it is a hassle because you have to have insurance on the car to renew. I know you can cancel right after but it is a PITA.
I believe it is terran or terron, something from GM based on the equinox.

I've driven a '14 equinox and was pretty nice, granted is still practically brand new with only 12k miles on it, spent most of its life in barn and was just there for my great grandmother to transport her.

State Farm does this thing where storage is just insurance that's temporarily frozen where you can still get your POI card updated every 6 months and can activate lt at any time you need to drive the vehicle, its something $18 a month for frozen insurance for me, unless activated you do have to full rate for the month though I believe.

Which to be honest Saturns are only ~$100 a month to insure regardless.

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My new car arrives this weekend, which spells the end for my Saturn. 17 years and 315,000 miles - a long and noble life. Couldn't have done it without the advice and encouragement from the fine members of this site, both past and present.

I'd like to see the Saturn go to a Saturnfan to either keep it going or use it for parts. It is a daily driver, but needs some work to make it a pleasant and safe one. PM me if you would like a $300 SC-1 that can be driven home with the a/c on.

If I was closer I might snag that, but it's a long drive back to Virginia. But unless the car is trash, a very fair price IMO. Out this way nobody gives them away really cheap any more.



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I had an Equinox 4 banger as a company car for a while, and it was far from terrible. If you can live with the lacking 0-60 times, actually it was a fairly decent car as far as ride quality, handling, shifting, road noise... really most car stuff. I wasn't a big fan of the styling either inside or out, but ergonomics and such were fine.

And in drive cycles that would get me 40 or so in the SL1, that thing would pull an honest 30+ MPG average. Not at all bad for the size and mixed driving.

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For that matter, my 05 malibu maxx pulls 30mpg with a very active 6 cyl and has lots of comfy room.
Balance that with my 04 suburban pulling in at 17+ mpg.

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My spare car is a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 with the 4.7L V8 and an automatic. It has been a great vehicle. Now that I have the SC2, I drive it rarely. Last tank I pulled down 11.5 MPG.

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I've driven a '14 equinox and was pretty nice, granted is still practically brand new with only 12k miles on it, spent most of its life in barn and was just there for my great grandmother to transport her.
A couple of coworkers bought new Equinoxes, and they are very nice. One has very attractive black/brown leather trim inside.

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Which to be honest Saturns are only ~$100 a month to insure regardless.
Yeah, they are pretty cheap but my wife is even cheaper

Our goal for the next four years for our youngest to graduate college without any debt (we've already pulled it off for our oldest). But our youngest chose to go to a private, out of state college. No loan for the first year, not sure if we can continue for the next several.

So she's on a "every penny counts" kick right now, but then her mom got seriously ill (should make a full recovery, is at home recovering now). But all the driving to Detroit-area plus planning the drives to NY for college made her hyper-aware of the costs of gas and insurance.

I'm pretty sure we will stick to two cars, as I really don't like relying on one car, even if it is new.

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I had an Equinox 4 banger as a company car for a while, and it was far from terrible. If you can live with the lacking 0-60 times, actually it was a fairly decent car as far as ride quality, handling, shifting, road noise... really most car stuff. I wasn't a big fan of the styling either inside or out
I've only been in a 2016(?) recently and liked the interior from what I remember. And I agree, they seem fine with (relatively) lower miles. From what I remember, it's around the 100k ~ 150k miles that folks are seeing go south in the Equinox 4 bangers. I want any car to last because we will consider my retirement shortly after our last kid graduates.

I'd consider only the four because of the mileage. Once you go with the 6, mpg is actually worse than our minivans . . . so we'd be going to smaller car, lower mpg

Though - looking at 2018, it looks like Chevy has dropped the 6 cyl and now has a 1.6L turbo diesel - offering 39 mpg hwy.

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Yes, that would be a long trip. The car would probably make it though, and you could impress your friends with how pristine the underside of a 17 year old car that's never seen road salt can be!!!
You should see the undercarriage of my 93 SW2.

It still has factory exhaust. That came apart. Easily.


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That's unusual for your location - good maintenance. I've never broken a bolt on this car either, and have replaced the fuel filter and the sway bar bushings as well as pulling the exhaust manifold off 4 times for secondary air injection system maintenance. Having grown up in Pittsburgh, I really appreciate things not rusting in the south..

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Equinox 4-banger was a car I considered, decent mpg for the size, but I keep hearing horror stories.


Yes, and they are all true. My personal mechanic and his wife had an Equinox with the 2.4L DOHC Scrap-O-Tec boat anchor. Fried the oil control rings at 24-25k miles and the dealership had to replace the engine under warranty. GM actually released a software update to REDUCE the mileage before the PCM would trigger the OCI light on your dash, as they found more frequently changed oil(instead of the 9k interval averages they normally have) reduced the possibility of destroying the ring pack prematurely.


Do NOT ever buy an Equinox. Go with a Honda, an Acura, or something from one of the foreign automakers when you want a decent crossover vehicle that is reliable.

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My spare car is a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 with the 4.7L V8 and an automatic. It has been a great vehicle. Now that I have the SC2, I drive it rarely. Last tank I pulled down 11.5 MPG.
Until you overheat even one time and drop your valve seats into the cylinders and destroy the block.

http://knowledgebase.powertrainprodu...7-5-7-engines/

Here is a video explaining what happens with the stock engines. This is the company i contacted, about a rebuild on my Saturn engine, when i was quoted $1,500. Now, the engines are priced at $2,841.00 fully rebuilt by them, for the S-Series.

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Though - looking at 2018, it looks like Chevy has dropped the 6 cyl and now has a 1.6L turbo diesel - offering 39 mpg hwy.
Check the diesel chevy cruze then, 65mpg avg on highway was attained, but this was in the desert side of California on pretty level surface of road in the middle of summer.

But hell 50mpg average is basically at the same level of mid-2000's Volkswagens.


I've been eyeing the '19 civic coupe, but they are standardizing all the currently available safety packages and adding an extra 200lbs to every trim. I am seriously considering contacting honda its self and just ask there is a way to get one off the line with all the crap, heck maybe ask for a racing frame instead...

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^^ I couldn't believe it until I looked it up.
You are correct on that impressive diesel mileage. And it's doing it with a 4-cyl not a 3.

Maybe I should slip that 4 banger diesel inside my John Deere 1026R.

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^^ I couldn't believe it until I looked it up.
You are correct on that impressive diesel mileage. And it's doing it with a 4-cyl not a 3.

Maybe I should slip that 4 banger diesel inside my John Deere 1026R.

But what's up with that engine.....every used one I see has between 36 & 44 K miles on it....engine issues?

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