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Old 08-19-2018, 02:57 PM   #1
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Default Unknown cable

My son is out of town and the steel belt came off the tire and ripped the left front fender and inner fender and pulled a cable harness out. I think it maybe the engine cable harness???...I really don't know. It appears that this cable must have run along the inner fender and enter inside the cabin just in front of the drivers door and goes under the dash. I tried to attach the pic he sent me.
Any help on identifying this cable and if anyone else has experienced this and what the repair was. Can that harness be repaired or does it just need to be replaced? Hopefully he will send me a close up picture of the harness and the ends.
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:22 PM   #2
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That sounds/looks like the forward lamp harness from the UHJB. Likely you will have to replace the UHJB and the harness, can not tell for sure without more decent pictures, connector on the far end. You can find the correct parts from a junkyard and generally it is year, engine, transmission, and options specific. How and what is determined by what it looks like. Not terribly expensive and IF the car runs it can be fixed easily as long as the car is parked and not driven until fixed particularly in water/rain.

In this case I will look up the lamp harness and it might be a 98/99 part for all models and variations.

Modern low rolling resistance tires do things like that when run with low pressure.

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Old 08-19-2018, 04:40 PM   #3
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IF it is the forward lamp harness then a 97 or 98 model year Sedan or Wagon will fit and function. What else is trashed depends on inspection.

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Old 08-19-2018, 08:13 PM   #4
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Car-Part com has wiring harnesses.
That picture is terrifying!
Are those the PCM connectors and the connectors for the gauge cluster? I hope not.


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You could have yanked the cable off the PCM.

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Old 08-19-2018, 09:17 PM   #5
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Both the I/P and forward lamp harnesses run out of there.

The reason I asked for better pictures is you can not tell what they are from that picture so I decided to not speculate on the extent of damage. Whatever it is this will be a DIY repair as no sane person would take on this job as it will be quite a time consumer.


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That is the engine harness and it's pretty clear that it ripped out of the body side pass through. You can only hope that the connectors on the other end are still usable. The PCM is one of them and they all have lock mechanisms to ensure they don't vibrate out of position.

When I did my conversion from automatic to manual on my 99 SL2 I removed that harness with the complete engine/transmission assembly attached. I unplugged all the interior connections and pulled it through the body and un-clipped it from the wheel well area.

If both sides of the connectors came out then you're into replacing some of the interior wire harnesses, PCM and possibly the gauge cluster.

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Gee, the tire in the photo doesn't even look like it's pitifully low on pressure -- although the tread looks bald. What brand of tires were those?!?!

Glad your son wasn't injured at least!

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That is the engine harness and it's pretty clear that it ripped out of the body side pass through. You can only hope that the connectors on the other end are still usable. The PCM is one of them and they all have lock mechanisms to ensure they don't vibrate out of position.

When I did my conversion from automatic to manual on my 99 SL2 I removed that harness with the complete engine/transmission assembly attached. I unplugged all the interior connections and pulled it through the body and un-clipped it from the wheel well area.

If both sides of the connectors came out then you're into replacing some of the interior wire harnesses, PCM and possibly the gauge cluster.
If that turns out to be the engine harness then it also has taken out parts of the i/p harness as well. If the assurance clips were in place there are several trashed components.

As to steel belted tires if the sidewall lists a 45+ full load pressure running at ~1/2 that pressure for any continuous period of time runs the real risk of belt separation. When steel belts first showed up in the US belt separation was a relatively common event as the country adapted to steel belt radials from cross bias tires. This can happen with cloth belts as well.

The front wheel load of the Saturn is about 750lb.

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