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Old 06-17-2018, 09:59 PM   #1
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Default Looking at buying a 2004-2005 V6 Vue, what should I look for...?

Hey all!

Current Saturn owner in Ontario, Canada crossing over from the S-Series tech forums. Looking to purchase a V6 Vue for towing a utility trailer for landscaping/lawn care equipment. Total load likely will rarely exceed 2000lbs.

What should I be looking for? I have a potential buy in a 2005 Vue Redline (auto trans) with 216,000kM (134,000 miles) for $2500 CAD. There's also another 2004 V6 (but no info currently, need to talk to the owner).


I'm definitely interested in the Redline, but know little about Saturn Vues. I've nearly rebuilt my SL2, done almost everything save for the engine and trans, but no experience on post S-series vehicles. Honda engine, what trans is worrisome...? What should I look for in a test-drive...?

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Old 06-17-2018, 10:58 PM   #2
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I thought the redline didnít allow towing because the rear bumper is too low( unles you cut it)

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Old 06-18-2018, 06:37 AM   #3
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Default Re: Looking at buying a 2004-2005 V6 Vue, what should I look for...?

I wasn't aware of any of that... I just did some research. I'm still interested in buying it, it looks like you just need to modify the real facia. Not even the bumper.

The only thing I'm really concerned about is the legality of it. Would it be legal to tow a trailer commercially if it's technically not supported by the company? The Vue itself is designed to tow 3500lbs...but Saturn mentions many times "don't tow with the Redline Vue, you'll damage your vehicle".

I'm in Canada, but I doubt the laws are much different.

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Old 06-18-2018, 06:47 AM   #4
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I wouldn't be overly concerned about towing if you're willing to cut that small slot. Make sure you periodically dump and re-fill the transmission with fresh fluid. On a FWD VUE, that's usually the weak link in the drive train. On a AWD VUE, it's the RDM unit in the rear (with bearing failures between the two halves of the drive shaft to the rear being a close contender).

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:40 AM   #5
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Default Re: Looking at buying a 2004-2005 V6 Vue, what should I look for...?

You do have to trim the bumper cover but pretty minor.



I don't know the Canadian RL market but $2500 CAD seems pretty cheap. I'd be really concerned with subframe and undercarriage rust at that price. Also, you could spend another $3-$4K on needed maintenance or repairs which is why its being sold so cheap. Timing belt, water pump, valve adjustment, spark plugs, struts, wheel bearings, control arms, tires, brakes etc. add up. You would be much better off importing a rustfree southern car that has been gone through. Umm, I could could help you out in that regard as I'm selling my silver '04 but it's a bit more than $2,500. https://sites.google.com/site/atikov...ue-redline-awd

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:58 AM   #6
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Thanks for the info!

I also have another option that came up that I'm quite interested in. A 2004 Vue, one driver, older woman, with all maintenance records. 191,000KM, or ~119,000 miles. Leather interior. V6, Honda engine.

Is the transmission only worrisome on the inline 4 models?

VUEManiac, RDM? I'm not too familiar with AWD transmissions, I've never done work on a vehicle with one. Mainly FWD.

Also, atikovi, not necessarily interested but if I had the budget for that Vue I'd be snatching it up in no time. That thing is gorgeous. It's exactly what I'd want to do to my own Vue, right down to the Meguire's. I'm a hobby detailer. Awesome work!

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Old 06-18-2018, 11:12 AM   #7
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VUEManiac, RDM? I'm not too familiar with AWD transmissions, I've never done work on a vehicle with one. Mainly FWD.
RDM is the rear wheel drive module that drives the rear wheels when slippage is detected with the front wheels. They are pretty fragile and expensive to replace.

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:25 PM   #8
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Default Re: Looking at buying a 2004-2005 V6 Vue, what should I look for...?

Just thought I'd chime in with an update. I'm pretty much locked into a 2004 V6 FWD Vue, Black. 190,000KM (~118,500 miles). All service records included. Regular oil changes, garaged overnight inside for the winters, new tires, brakes engine and trans all work great - no noticeable issues in a test drive. Some suspension parts may need replacing, but it runs really well. Minimal underbody rust. Just got a new starter and wheel bearing replaced. $1200 CAD ($908USD).

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  • Passenger mirror glass is detached from the mirror. It's on, but loose.
  • ABS and TCS lights are on.
  • AC only works on 1 or 2. Instantly disables on 3 or 4.
  • Muffler has a rust spot, one layer is rusted through about 2" in diameter. Inner layer is intact.

I'll be on here more often going forward! I do all my work DIY, so Saturnfans is the only real place to be. Glad to join the Vue clan!

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Old 06-19-2018, 11:00 AM   #9
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Default Re: Looking at buying a 2004-2005 V6 Vue, what should I look for...?

I have an 04 v6 awd, black too. Timing belt should be done every 100k miles so do that if it hasn't been done already along with the water pump and new coolant. The blower only working on low speeds sound like a resistor problem.

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Old 06-20-2018, 07:40 AM   #10
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I have an 04 v6 awd, black too. Timing belt should be done every 100k miles so do that if it hasn't been done already along with the water pump and new coolant. The blower only working on low speeds sound like a resistor problem.
If it was a resistor it would only work on high.

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Old 06-22-2018, 11:07 PM   #11
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Just another update. Looks like that deal with the Vue fell through - after agreeing to the sale, the owner texted me saying they decided to sell to someone who messaged them before I did initially.

I contacted another seller nearby. The Vue is a 2005, FWD. It has 211,000KM (132,500 miles), $1250 CAD (~$950 USD). No lights on. Haven't gone out to test as of yet. No info on service records. Not sure if there are any. Woman driver. She said the tires need replacing. Also an inner tie rod. I ask how she knew, and she said her mechanic replaced the outer tie rod and then told her that the inner was shot. I asked which side, and she said she thinks it was both. I already purchased another set of tires on Vue alloy rims, so that isn't a concern.

Any red flags or specific things I should look out for? Should I be concerned about the steering rack at these miles...?

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Just another update. Looks like that deal with the Vue fell through - after agreeing to the sale, the owner texted me saying they decided to sell to someone who messaged them before I did initially.

I contacted another seller nearby. The Vue is a 2005, FWD. It has 211,000KM (132,500 miles), $1250 CAD (~$950 USD). No lights on. Haven't gone out to test as of yet. No info on service records. Not sure if there are any. Woman driver. She said the tires need replacing. Also an inner tie rod. I ask how she knew, and she said her mechanic replaced the outer tie rod and then told her that the inner was shot. I asked which side, and she said she thinks it was both. I already purchased another set of tires on Vue alloy rims, so that isn't a concern.

Any red flags or specific things I should look out for? Should I be concerned about the steering rack at these miles...?

Thanks in advance.
Replacing the inner tie rods isn't a big deal if that's all that's wrong with it. If you buy it, immediately do the timing belt, spark plugs, and have the valve lash checked and adjusted (if necessary). I'd also change ALL of the fluids.

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If it was a resistor it would only work on high.
The resistor card can cause many strange problems ... the attached SB applies to 02-07 Vue's.

BTW ... the SB explanation is prepared for dealer techs but if you have problems with compressor not engaging at any blower setting replace the blower speed card.

They are commonly available and I paid around $35 for last one I needed.
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:43 PM   #14
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Another one to add to the Vue saga. Meeting a seller this weekend. Here is the link to the Kijiji ad.

Low KMs (149,000), $2000 CAD, AWD (with a brand new driveshaft), looks like two owners, Blue, no lights on, only the "Low Coolant" lamp. He sent me the VIN number and everything seems to check out. It passed emissions every time in its history. Again, any thoughts on this one?

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