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Old 04-21-2018, 01:26 PM   #1
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Default I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

Can someone tell me what I should use to replace this fitting on the steel line that connects to the caliper hose. I'm thinking double flare with fitting on steel line and then to something like this fitting:

Inverted flare bubble adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/Inverted-Flar...fittings&psc=1



I cannot break the front brake lines to caliper hoses. So much rust and not enough room to cut them.

Thanks for your help.

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Old 04-21-2018, 03:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

Tried heat from a propane torch? This can allow severely corroded fittings to break loose. Penetrating oil allowed to soak in before heating may allow the artificial bonding to break.

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Old 04-21-2018, 04:49 PM   #3
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

Yeah, I let PB Blaster soak in and then hit it with Mapp gas. No luck.

I was hoping to do all four wheels but I can leave the front ones if need be. Just not sure what to use for connecting the brakes lines to the new brake hoses since the OEM had a factory fitting on the end of the lines (not a double inverted flare connector.)

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Old 04-21-2018, 08:00 PM   #4
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

There are a bunch of fittings in a kit.
The flaring tool is easy to use.

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Old 04-21-2018, 08:14 PM   #5
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

I figured this out

Bubble flare at the brake hose. Doh!

I thought it was something special. I've only done double flares before and I did not have any bubble flare nuts but now I see the difference.

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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

I had this issue with my brake hoses, I blew one while under emergency braking measures and my calipers were reversed apparently so they had been rubbing on the hoses. Blew the hose and when I went to replace it could not get the hose off. So I ended up chopping up the steel line and completely replacing the front end lines.

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Old 04-22-2018, 07:13 AM   #7
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

I would actually love to replace all 4 lines completely - but I'm not sure where they go - do they come off the booster and if so where do they connect.

If only one could (still?) buy pre-formed lines too. It's not too bad given the clips that the rear lines fit in.

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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

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If only one could (still?) buy pre-formed lines too. It's not too bad given the clips that the rear lines fit in.
It would be difficult to get them shipped to NY, but southern salvage yards have S-Series brake lines that look about a month old.

If you have a brake line to use as a template, you can bend yourself a new set. It is not difficult and you could add as many splice joints/fittings as you want to make installation easier.
You coud go to a salvage yard and pay someone to hold the propper S-Series in the air while you remove the brake lines. ...in pieces using side-cutter pliers and such.

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Old 04-22-2018, 09:43 AM   #9
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Default Re: I had to cut brake line at caliper hose...

You could not get a prebent right rear line in without taking apart the car. If you are comfortable plumbing, buy nicopp and bend them yourself. My brake line documentation starts on page 6 of my thread.
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...=230898&page=6
To bend the nicopp, we just matched it to the old line and taped them together as we went.

It is nice to have all new brake lines!

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