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Old 10-29-2017, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default 03 vue

ok guys our vue is acting up, again UGH
it does have a few codes.
codes are as followes
P0221
P0638
P2176
in drive (if you drive it like a stick) it will run and drive, however if you let it idle, it will shutdown. were do i start looking to fix the problem?

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Old 10-31-2017, 10:05 AM   #2
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All three error codes points to the electric throttle body, part of the drive by wire system; electric servo motor throttle, electronic pedal and ECM. Throttle cleaning and diy throttle recalibration for starters. Any maintenance done to this car? Mileage?

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Old 11-01-2017, 12:16 PM   #3
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Pm so far has been
1. 6 new spark plugs,
2. 135 coil pack
3. 2 oci due to faulty injector
4. Replaced #6 injector
5. Cleaned upper intake, throttle body butterfly and housing
6. Replace all o rings on Injectors
Milage I think is about 160k

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Old 11-01-2017, 12:55 PM   #4
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Search within these forums for similar issues, even remotely similar to have an idea of drive by wire issues with components and wiring. Some are common to wiring and connections in panels where water intrusion may enter and corrode connections. Few are throttle body related and difficult to determine on a diy level without GM's scantool. A general diagnosing/troubleshooting method might include fuel pressure testing, replacing fuel filter every 100k miles, and using live monitoring of sensors (a good OBD II reader w/live displays). I would do the easy things first like fuel filter replacement unless yours in integrated into the fuel pump assembly (lifetime filtering). Borrowing a fuel pressure gauge from Autozone or Advance Auto helps without buying one. Expect >50 psi and should be setup to monitor pressures when the engine dies off while idling. Normal EFI fuel pressure remains after engine shut down after several minutes (bleed down time) so simply monitoring pressure then shutting off the engine should display pressure without immediate bleed down. After 100k miles, pumps are long past new car warranty and can fail at any time whether slowly losing operating pressure or dropping out altogether. If your pump is failing, it may be wearing out over time and difficult to determine without pressure monitoring.

Its unusual to find one injector failure among a group and testament to quality design for long term reliability with EFI systems used worldwide. Coil pack failure are rare too.

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Old 11-01-2017, 03:07 PM   #5
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Coil pack springs were bent pretty bad. Injector was throwing a misfire code. Changed plus first, code came back, changed injector all was good

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