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Old 10-16-2017, 06:29 PM   #1
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My 06 Vue was starting to get noisy. I was told I need a new rear differential. My only options seem to be used ones with a high amount of miles on them from a junkyard which would cost about $2000 installed. Does that sound right? Does anybody know if a differential from a 05 Equinox would work on the Vue? Thanks.

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Old 10-16-2017, 07:03 PM   #2
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How many miles on yours, and have you changed the fluid, with Versatrak fluid, in recent memory? And that amount from a boneyard sounds WAY high. Hell... you could probably order one from GM for less than that...installed.
And I believe that the RDM is different in the Equinox.... If memory serves, the Vue got a light weight version of it.... but I beat up on mine quite a bit in my 07 and never had any problems with it. I even spun both rears in reverse a couple of time in the mud.

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Old 10-16-2017, 07:54 PM   #3
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Got about 68,000 miles on mine. I can't remember when/if the fluid was changed last. I looked briefly online and I can't seem to find any new or remanufactured differentials.

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Old 10-16-2017, 08:27 PM   #4
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Ok, I looked around and my fluid was changed at just over 54,000 miles with GL5 75W140 full Synthetic gear oil.

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Old 10-17-2017, 08:32 AM   #5
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What JACK******* put that fluid in there??? The RDM takes Versatrak fluid from GM. I understand that a few folks have used a Royal Purple version with some success, but they seem to be a minority. Get the Versatrak fluid and get it in there!!! You might have to do it twice to really quiet it back down. Drain it.. fill with Veratrak, drive it for a few minutes.... turn about a dozen tight turns in each direction to really get the fluid into the clutches... Drain it, refill, and do the tight turns again. It should be fine.
And the transfer case on the back of the transmission takes 75-90 if memory serves...
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:37 AM   #6
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Here is a good link to more information...

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...Number=1684658


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Old 10-17-2017, 08:48 AM   #7
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Thanks for the info. I'm a little confused. So the Versatrak fluid goes in the RDM and the transfer case as well?

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:20 AM   #8
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Stunt,
The Versatrak goes in the RDM, the rear differential. Regular 75-90, I think, goes in the transfer case. You might want to check the owners manual to confirm the 75-90.... but it is nothing special for the transfer case... just verify the weight of the oil. I used Lucas in my transfer case, just can not guarantee that I am giving you the right oil weight.

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:36 AM   #9
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Gotcha! I'm taking it to the dealer Friday morning to have them change both fluids. Thanks again for all of your help.

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Old 10-17-2017, 11:33 AM   #10
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I would make sure that you have them do it twice like I suggested. Drain and fill... do tight turns in each direction, drain and fill... do tight turns.... should be fine after that.

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Old 10-17-2017, 03:16 PM   #11
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Stunt,
I will say this also. My new 08 Equinox was thunking and grinding in the RDM, and I changed the fluid in it, I used Mobile 1 as the Sport model doesn't use Versatrak fluid. It was still clunking on me though.... until I had this conversation with you.... I just went out and did a bunch of circles in the car, about 8-10 in each direction..... Now the rear is much quieter. I had forgotten to do that earlier to work the fluid into the clutches!!!! Silly ME....

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Old 10-17-2017, 03:56 PM   #12
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Thanks for the tip!

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:47 PM   #13
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Their is TSB on different rear drive car that requires a new LS differential oil. Changing the fluid instructions: 1) Drain and fill diff , do 10 figure eights. drive 20 freeway miles , 10 figure eight 2) repeat number 1. 3) drain and fill.
this is for a car with a limited slip diff. that has clutches between the left and the right wheels. the clutches slip on every turn and a small amount for one tire be larger than the other.

The Vue rear diff dose not have limited slip clutches, but it dose have clutches in the rear drive unit (RDM). these clutches slip when the rear differential is moving faster or slower than the front transfer case. It will likely take a long time to washout old diff oil from the clutches. I recommend replace the rear diff / RDM oil ( one oil GM 12378514 1 quart circulates though both)

Ask the dealer to: hold a magnet in the steam of draining old oil . some fuzz looking metal may be normal, ask them if it was excessive metal it the oil.
Let the oil drain completely.

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Manual Transaxle
Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 88861800, in Canada 88861801).

Automatic Transaxle (with 2.2L L4 engine)
DEXRON®-VI Automatic Transmission Fluid.

Automatic Transaxle (with 3.5L V6 engine)
ATF Z1 Automatic Transmission Fluid (Saturn Part No. 22717466).

Rear Drive Module and Power Transfer Unit (except with 3.5L V6 engine)
VERSATRAK® Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 12378514, in Canada 88901045).

Rear Drive Module (with 3.5L V6 engine)
VERSATRAK® Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 12378514, in Canada 88901045).

Transfer Case (with 3.5L V6 engine)
Synthetic Axle Lubricant (GM Part No. U.S. 12378261, in Canada 10953455).

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Old 10-24-2017, 08:06 AM   #14
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RDM and transfer case fluids were changed. The knocking noise I heard/felt seem to be gone however my car still seems a tad loud while driving. Maybe something else is going on with it.

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Old 10-24-2017, 09:34 AM   #15
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Kevin,
It is getting to be too much of a hassle... just drive the car over to me and give it to me and I will handle it!!!
Yes, I am kidding...
My first question... did they do the drain and fill on the rdm once or twice??? If only once... I would do it again... Also, when was the last time you did a drain and fill on the trans??? With Honda DW-1 fluid...

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If the remaining noise is in the rear , One or both rear wheel hubs (bearing inside) may be worn. If so the noise is likely louder while driving on a smooth freeway and around a curve. But louder to one direction but less when driving straight and to the other direction.

Don't for get about your tires. What is the tire condition / type / ware?
Many Vues have excessive negative rear camber that causes rear tire cupping in the inboard tread area.

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Old 10-30-2017, 12:27 PM   #17
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Sorry, I've been busy. I had the rdm fluid changed once. I can't remember when my transmission fluid was changed last. I checked it and it seems to be good. My tires are only a few months so they're in great shape.

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Did it get louder after the new tires? Some tires just make more noise then others depending on the tread design. If you look up the tires on a site like TireRack you can see if those are known to be louder than others.

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Old 10-30-2017, 04:08 PM   #19
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I just picked my car up from a local shop (different from the other one I use). They replaced the right wheel bearing, which I suspected I had a bad one due to the noise. They also replaced the carrier bearing. I had both replaced at the shop I normally go to within this past year The car is now the quietest I have heard it in over a year. Both of the two noises are gone so I'm thinking there was nothing wrong with the rdm to begin with like my normal shop said

Regarding the tires, the new ones didn't seem to be any different.

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Just to chime in, I've had multitudes of issues with wheel bearings. The most recent was the driver's side front, which one shop mistook for a transmission problem. It was very loud, so bad the shudder it produced was hard to pinpoint. Also, I recently bought new tires, and specifically went after quiet ones after suffering through very noisy ones for three plus years. I went with Falken Sinceras from Tirebuyer.com. So far I am extremely happy with them, not only are they quiet, but they handle well in all conditions I've seen so far. Snow, remains to be seen. And, even paying for delivery and installation, they were just over $500 for the set. If there is any drawback, they are so quiet that I can now hear other noises that were masked by the screaming Generals....

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