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Old 10-11-2017, 04:46 PM   #1
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Recommendations/links for wand type electric wrenches appreciated.

Would have come in handy when I replaced my serpentine belt. I was going to replace the tensioner but could not with the tools at hand. Tight quarters.

Fortunately, only replacing the junk serpentine belt that Lee Automotive used with a Goodyear Gatorback belt solved the chatter problem. I can use the Goodyear Gatorback tensioner on my next (3rd gen) Saturn.

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Old 10-11-2017, 05:02 PM   #2
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Wand type?
I have never seen them.
Handheld electric impact wrench is all I am familiar with.
But, because of the impact wrench body, I don't believe it can be of much use on anything under the hood.... cannot get a good straight bead on bolts.

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Old 10-12-2017, 06:59 AM   #3
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I see you use TCW3 in the gas tank, me too.
Increases my mileage ~7% more by adding like 2oz oil with 10 gallons of fuel.

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Old 10-12-2017, 07:57 AM   #4
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https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...t9B70airy43vM:
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Like toggenburg said, is there enough clearance to use it?

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:39 AM   #5
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No. These sorta work: http://www.gearwrench.com/wrenches/g...on-wrench.html

There is a richpin06a video on how to replace the tensioner using conventional hand tools.

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:44 AM   #6
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The M12 3/8" should fit...but it's too pansy to do most of the bolts (35ft/lbs max).

The M18 3/8" right angle impact driver should also fit and between "mode 2" of 60ft/lbs and the impacts it should be able to take the bolts off fine. Also has a higher RPM of well over 250 so it won't take hours to remove fasteners like the M12 version.

I've never had a problem with hand tools, bit tricky getting a ratchet and short socket in there but slip the jack handle over the ratchet handle and everything comes off fine.

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Old 10-12-2017, 09:05 AM   #7
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Recommendations/links for wand type electric wrenches appreciated.

Would have come in handy when I replaced my serpentine belt. I was going to replace the tensioner but could not with the tools at hand. Tight quarters.
We're you trying to replace the tensioner from up top (under the hood)?

Or did you have the passenger wheel and splash guards removed and were approaching it from inside the tire well?

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Many tools will fit and break the bolt loose but when the bolt is almost out you will fine that the tool is jammed up against the midrail.

Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or0-0oG5Hsc

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:49 AM   #9
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Here is a thought, based on top of Richpin's video and also from my mechanic friend who was a Saturn Mechanic for 20 years...

Another option on removing anything from the side of the engine is to remove the Upper Motor Mount while supporting the Oil Pan with a small thin block of wood. Gradually you will hike the engine up, via the Oil Pan; while removing the Upper Motor Mount at the same time. You can get an extra 4-6 inches of clearance with the top back of the engine against the firewall.

I've done this numerous times over the past 20 years without any issues or damage to any top engine pieces when I have needed to get to things on the Passenger side of the engine.

For what its worth in helping out to remove worn out parts.

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:59 AM   #10
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Many tools will fit and break the bolt loose but when the bolt is almost out you will fine that the tool is jammed up against the midrail...
As Exactly Man would say, “exactly!”
The designers were given clearances and they used them all.
I found shapely / refined Snap On wrenches give more clearance than relatively clobby, break-proof Craftsmans.

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Old 10-12-2017, 12:31 PM   #11
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Slack the Tensioner

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The problem is those Snap-On wrenches are expensive. There are Asian produced decent copies of the 6 point angle head wrenches.

The engine can be positioned relatively easily to allow using a 3/8" drive impact wrench to pull both bolts. This is not a difficult task actually.

Heat up the wrench and bend it, maintains strength.

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Old 10-12-2017, 02:33 PM   #13
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Thank you for the replies. My method was to jack the car and remove the splash guard. If I was home at the time I would have had a better selection of tools. I could have proceeded to lower the car and then set it up for motor mount removal but decided if the new Gatorback belt resolved the issue, I would call it good and save the Goodyear Gatorback tensioner (49212) for my next S-series.

I paid less than $11 for the Goodyear serpentine belt, money well spent.

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Old 10-13-2017, 06:07 AM   #14
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I see you use TCW3 in the gas tank, me too.
Increases my mileage ~7% more by adding like 2oz oil with 10 gallons of fuel.
What is this TCW3 ? Any fuel addtives that actually work or anything I can add to a fresh oil change ? Used to use z-max for the oil and gas but stopped buyen it awhile ago

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I'd prefer a subtractive rather than an additive. Would be nice to get the ethanol out of the gas. Our last tank gave us 28.6, we seem to be creeping up a half MPG each tank. I wonder what we could get away from the corn belt.

Regarding electric wrenches, I am pretty sure all my wrenches have electrons.

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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tec...allon/16795065

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TCW3 is a Marine rated 2 cycle oil. It scavenges all the junk and moisture out of the system and burns clean. I have gallons of Pennzoil Marine Premium Plus Synthetic Blend 2-cycle oil I purchased from the O'Reilly clearance, some for only $3.47 a gallon, yes gallon.

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I think I've got some of that stuff. I burn it in my 1971 Harley Model D gas golf cart. It's a two stroke. The cool thing is the motor runs backwards for reverse. I rebuild the golf cart too.

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Cool! Will get the next tank there.

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