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Old 09-25-2017, 10:42 PM   #1
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Default Wheel swappability

A have a 1996 sl2 I'm getting rid of and a 1995 sc1 I'm keeping.

Can I swap wheels / tires on them without needing to do anything else?

The sl2 has 15" aluminum sawtooths with sightly newer tires. The sc1 has 14" steel wheels.

I'm very sad to say that I'm sending it to the wrecker, no one will even give me $800 for it because I don't want to lie about the issues it has. And the state of California will give me $1k if I fail smog and "retire" it. So I will be failing smog this week and starting the paperwork to turn it in.

The 14" wheels have all great tires too if someone else wants to trade them for crappier tires in L.A.

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Old 09-25-2017, 11:11 PM   #2
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Default Re: Wheel swappability

Any S-Series wheel fits on any S-Series with no issues (numbnutz putting non-stock size tires on stock rims aside).

Considering the '95 SC1 I had for about 3 weeks had 175/70R14's I can't say I'd endorse putting those on anything faster than your average overloaded 20yr old golf cart...lol

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Old 09-27-2017, 08:04 AM   #3
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Default Re: Wheel swappability

While the aluminum rims look great - you have to love the steel rims.

I built my car hauler using Saturn rear wheel bearings, and use the steel rims.

My SO has steel rims on her first Saturn - a 96 SC2 she bought new.

They never lose air. It's been years since I had to add on either.

Everything else we own have aluminum rims - and it's a continuous chore keeping air in everything.....

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Old 09-27-2017, 12:34 PM   #4
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Ok cool, I'll swap them.

Another reason I want to swap is that my old SC2 definitely handled corners better at speed than my same year sc1, I'm hoping this will help with handling a bit too.

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Old 09-27-2017, 12:53 PM   #5
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Ok cool, I'll swap them.

Another reason I want to swap is that my old SC2 definitely handled corners better at speed than my same year sc1, I'm hoping this will help with handling a bit too.
The handling difference is probably more attributed to the differences in steering and suspension. In the SC2 the front sway bar is stiffer, steering is lighter and there is a rear sway bar in the back whereas the SC1 does not have one.

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Old 09-27-2017, 01:54 PM   #6
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The handling difference is probably more attributed to the differences in steering and suspension. In the SC2 the front sway bar is stiffer, steering is lighter and there is a rear sway bar in the back whereas the SC1 does not have one.
These would be good parts to pull from the SL2, and put on the SC1, before junking it.

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Old 09-28-2017, 12:41 AM   #7
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Interesting, would they bolt right on/off?

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Old 09-28-2017, 07:27 AM   #8
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Default Re: Wheel swappability

I thought they did, but on research, it looks like you also need the rear subframe from the SL2 to get the rear mounted. Rust shouldn't be an issue where you are, so that helps

see posts 6 and 8 here
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=172523

I've never had a SOHC Saturn but it swapping wheels, swaybars, and front seats was something I filed away mentally, if I ever did end up with one

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Old 09-28-2017, 11:40 AM   #9
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Already swapped front seats :-) I'll look into the sway bars

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Old 10-01-2017, 04:06 PM   #10
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Thank you for the link explaining the rear subframe and sway bar.

I don't think I'll be tackling that. I used to tow with my SC2 and plan on a little bit of towing with the sc1. I know the power will be way different, but will it the suspension not handle as well with a trailer sc1 vs. sc2?

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Old 10-01-2017, 04:24 PM   #11
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Default Re: Wheel swappability

I believe both cars are rated at 1000# towing capacity.
Just remember to deduct your own weight, and the trailer weight to show how much you can really haul. AND the SC1's smaller engine....talk about straining it? If you plan on towing summat often, then you might consider having access to another vehicle to tow with ... like a small pickup.

If I read your other posts correctly, you now have 15" rims on.... I don't know about wheel well clearances and IF the trailer tongue's weight may affect clearance on the rear tires?

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Old 10-01-2017, 06:47 PM   #12
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I used to own gliders. My first glider and trailer were 1500 lbs, 500 over the limit. My next one came in at 1000 lbs. Glider trailers are long, have minimal drag, and they both towed well behind my SL2. Going up the big hill to the glider club was not so good though - I needed more power. That was just a seasonal trip so it was ok.

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Sure, but going down from 124 hp to 100 hp will make the difference more noticeable.

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I would ​agree. That was one of the reasons I splurged for the SL2 rather than the single cam.

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Old 10-02-2017, 12:00 AM   #15
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Default Re: Wheel swappability

That's also one of the main reasons I got the sl2 5spd with 4 wheel disc. But it's not working out :-(

I've towed 2000# with my SC2 several hundred miles up some pretty decent grades without any issues.

I don't plan on doing that with the sc1, but may tow up to 1000 lbs

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The rear discs are something that would swap over to the SC1, too (again, not something I have personally done, but have read about )

Hunt4Steve used to use his '93 SC1 (with it's 85hp TBI power plant) for towing. Don't recall the trailer/load weight.

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Old 10-06-2017, 11:17 PM   #17
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Would the disc brakes be a simple swap? Probably not huh?

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Old 10-12-2017, 09:25 PM   #18
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The front passenger side tire is rubbing the strut now with the 15" wheels

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Old 10-12-2017, 09:42 PM   #19
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Please help,
It's a 185/65/15 and I can feel/ hear it rub only when braking. Tire was at 30psi. I took off the wheel and see where it was rubbing.
Why is this happening? Should I swap my 14"s back before it's too late?

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Is my camber way off and I never knew with the skinnier tires?

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