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Old 09-13-2017, 09:10 AM   #1
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Dizzy i'm lost, new battery, won't crank/start

so this 2000 saturn sl2 is my moms daily, bought it new, MT 74k all stock except for a crazy stereo setup that hasn't been blasted in 5 yrs or more (dog now). bought a new battery last winter, and she didn't start the car for a little over two months cause of summer heat and no more a/c. so the battery died and after trickle charging it and it tested perfect we reinstalled it and the fan blower will boot up various lights on dash will show and the ding ding sound of key in ignition will chime SUPER rapid then silence. the steering column does seem to wiggle a good deal, possibly caused by needing to jimmy the key in the ignition to get it to turn. the key itself is pretty worn, but have also tried ram metal key that turns more easily but with same results. the terminals seem good and don't show corrosion, the cables look weathered from its 17 years, but not severely out of sorts. no crank at all, can't say i hear the fuel pump wake up in the first few seconds of key turn....just that seriously rapid dinging???? i have searched these forums best i could, and get aggravated when people don't do their research, but i'm at a loss as to not finding the same specific symptoms. any thoughts or forwarded urls of potential things to check would be greatly appreciated. thanks to all my fellow human gearheads. peace health and happiness for us all.

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Old 09-13-2017, 09:32 AM   #2
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Default Re: i'm lost, new battery, won't crank/start

Since you have a manual transmission, I'd try a bump start. The S series starters do not seem to have a long life, especially aftermarket ones. My OEM one went about 150K miles. I have starter #4 in there now. If you can get the car up on a set of ramps it is not hard to change.

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Old 09-13-2017, 02:19 PM   #3
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Default Re: i'm lost, new battery, won't crank/start

slowbunny, as suggested, it may be a dead or faulty starter that won't turn over the engine to start it up. In addition to possible starter failure requiring replacement, you may have aggravated the situation by jimmying an ignition key and upsetting the factory theft deterrent system, Passlock. Passlock is an electronic theft deterrent system using the EFI system and programming to disable injector operation while flashing the security indicator. There are four modes of security indications; off, blinking slowly, flashing quickly, and on. The passlock sensors detect ignition lock cylinder rotation as well as ignition switch circuitry to perform an electronic version of a GO/NO GO security procedure. Damaging the lock cylinder can upset the mechanical synching performed while turning the ignition key into triggering Passlock into disabling the injectors from operating while starting. The security indicator will flash quickly during starting.

If the security indicator remains off during starting then you're wrestling with a starting problem. You can try banging the starter body with a piece of 2x4 lumber in hopes of 'realigning' and/or shaking loose the cobwebs inside the starter that may allow it to run at least one more time otherwise another test can determine whether or not the starter or starting circuit is faulty.

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