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Old 01-11-2017, 09:18 AM   #1
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Can anyone recommend a strut for my SL2s? I have a 2001 SL2 5-speed and a 2002 SL2 5-speed (both have around 140,000 miles). I believe both have Gabriels at this time, and the dampening is fading after only a year or so, less than 10,000 miles on each SL2 if I remember correctly.

A while ago I bought a set of 4 Gabriels from RockAuto. They were so loose, they had less dampening than a set of Sensa-Tracs with 25,000 miles on them! (judging by pushing the 'naked' strut with my hands.) Is this normal for Gabriel, or normal variation in parts tolerances, or bad quality? I never even put them on the car!

I have had Monroe Sensa-Trac in the past. Stiffer than original, but the ride will change (wearout) in 55,000 miles. Their other struts ("OE Spectrum" or "Gas-Matic") are less stiff, yes? Are they as durable? Do their "quick struts" always have SensaTracs?

Are the KYB nice, as people say? How long might they last?

I don't have time to try every brand and put thousands of miles on each. I'm kind of "stuck with" my decision. That's why I am asking here, so I can make the right decision now (no more wasted money on Gabriels). What do you recommend?

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Old 01-11-2017, 09:49 AM   #2
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The best stand alone strut options is and always has been KYB GR-2/Excel-G, at least for the S-Series.

The quik-strut craze happened and Monroe tried to cash in, took 'em 6-7 tries to get a part produced that doesn't squeak at every corner or every time the suspension moves. Even now I don't believe it's fixed, but it could be. Now just about everybody has quik-struts for the S-Series, probably with the same dubious results and quality (except KYB, haven't seen a S-Series quik-strut from them...).

I won't buy Napa/Monroe Sensa-craps, I bought an '00 Legacy Outback with them installed on the rear for less than 20k miles (had receipt but not in my name "warranty not valid") and not only were they worn out but I'd hit a bump 30ft from my driveway and it wouldn't stop bouncing my entire 42mi drive into work. The only good thing about that was it takes about 20min to swap out rear struts and had no alignment involvement.

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Old 01-11-2017, 01:00 PM   #3
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The best stand alone strut options is and always has been KYB GR-2/Excel-G, at least for the S-Series.

The quik-strut craze happened and Monroe tried to cash in, took 'em 6-7 tries to get a part produced that doesn't squeak at every corner or every time the suspension moves. Even now I don't believe it's fixed, but it could be. Now just about everybody has quik-struts for the S-Series, probably with the same dubious results and quality (except KYB, haven't seen a S-Series quik-strut from them...).

I won't buy Napa/Monroe Sensa-craps, I bought an '00 Legacy Outback with them installed on the rear for less than 20k miles (had receipt but not in my name "warranty not valid") and not only were they worn out but I'd hit a bump 30ft from my driveway and it wouldn't stop bouncing my entire 42mi drive into work. The only good thing about that was it takes about 20min to swap out rear struts and had no alignment involvement.
Thank god i read this before i spent 130$ on both front assembled by monroe on rockauto

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Old 01-11-2017, 03:37 PM   #4
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I just found something dated April 2016 on a forum for the Chrysler PT Cruiser - the Sensa-Trac has been replaced by the "OE Spectrum". Different valving.

Will KYB give a good ride over a long distance? I'm hoping more people will post and let us know their experiences.

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KYB and build your own. New springs are not a bad idea either as the ones in there are tired.
Front MOOG CC664
Rear MOOG CC681
These will give you the best ride and handling without jarring your teeth out. The rears are for a SW and will provide a stiffer rear suspension.

About 90,000 miles on KYB and they still work.

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Old 01-11-2017, 05:47 PM   #6
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KYB and build your own. New springs are not a bad idea either as the ones in there are tired.
Front MOOG CC664
Rear MOOG CC681
These will give you the best ride and handling without jarring your teeth out. The rears are for a SW and will provide a stiffer rear suspension.

About 90,000 miles on KYB and they still work.
+1 For KYB struts and Moog CargoCoils.
(I have Gabriel mounts and reused the larger OEM fasteners, they're nice and still on sale it looks)

Also if your buying new mounts too, don't forget the "MONROE 906928 Strut-Mate Strut Coil Spring Seat" for the front mount. For some reason the coil seat is a separate part from the front mount. Otherwise you have to reuse the old seat.
p.s. Make sure to get a mount kit with all of the hardware, some kits include the top and bottom strut washers and some expect you to reuse the old ones.
p.p.s. Don't forget the dust boots.

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Old 01-11-2017, 07:48 PM   #7
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I learned the hard way to not get cheap and buy Unity brand struts (Rockauto). They are terrible. Lots of noise and squeaking. I wound up buying Moog's and have been very happy with them.

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Old 01-11-2017, 10:54 PM   #8
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If you buy the Moog quickstruts, then plan on buying the cam adjustment bolts to go with them...else you will not be able to get the alignment right. I purchased those (I believe they are Moog ST8511) and they performed quite well from the start. They got rid of my front end creaking noise caused by the worn mount bearings.

However, my only small gripe about those is that after a few months a squeaking noise developed on the left side strut. It wasn't terrible, but it was annoying. So if I ever purchase a new set of struts I will try out the KYBs that everyone raves about and build them myself. Just my opinions...

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Old 01-14-2017, 05:38 AM   #9
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I have had to replace a couple of rear strut mounts in the past. The strut rod almost came through the fabric behind the rear passenger's head. I knew I had to fix it ASAP. The MOOG mount (lifetime warranty from PepBoys) didn't look any better than the assembly line originals; indeed, the MOOG failed after a few years.

Can I get a better mount? Should I replace them since I'll be disassembling that area anyway? I do not abuse my Saturns, but potholes and railroad tracks are always lurking in our path. Does anyone know of a better mount?

(BTW, I have also had creaking in the front. I believe the problem was inside the strut, not inside the top bearing for wheel turning. The noise may have gone away on its own, I don't remember.)

I will wait for your advice before placing my order, so I can save on shipping. Thanks!

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Old 01-14-2017, 09:54 AM   #10
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I've only used KYB parts and H&R springs. Only issue I had was when I was an idiot improperly assembling the mount; forgot the washer's top & bottom that prevent the shaft from being able to pull through the mount.
Limped home, jacked it up, re-aimed the shaft through the mount, got the nut off, stuck the washer in on the top, put the nut back on and no further issue

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Old 01-16-2017, 06:16 PM   #11
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KYB I installed myself 50,000 miles ago. Still gives beautiful ride. It is stiffer/more sporty feel but with my RT43 tires I do not feel a lot of bumps. I purchased mine at Rock Auto.

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:45 PM   #12
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Kybs excel-g are a good choice. They handled great on my moms SL1. Extra bonus is that they are also Made in Indiana as well according to KYB;s site.

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Old 01-19-2017, 07:46 AM   #13
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I've always ran the Monroe Senstitracs and never had an issue. Granted I'm mostly highway driving but they lasted about the same number of miles as the oem originals.

I just installed a set of KYB's on a friends Saturn and he seems to like them. He said it was a big improvement but his old ones were SHOT.

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There's no way I was going to pay big money for a Strut compressor, so I figured I was going to either buy a JY pair, or a pair of those "assembled units"
until just before Christmas. I found this at Princess Auto (It's like Canada's Harbor Freight) for $16. Yeah Baby. Once it's warm enough, I'm doin' struts!
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:44 PM   #15
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Another vote for KYB!

I have them on mine since the last 36K KMs and they are great! They have a nice ride characteristic.

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Old 01-21-2017, 07:48 PM   #16
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There's no way I was going to pay big money for a Strut compressor, so I figured I was going to either buy a JY pair, or a pair of those "assembled units"
until just before Christmas. I found this at Princess Auto (It's like Canada's Harbor Freight) for $16. Yeah Baby. Once it's warm enough, I'm doin' struts!
Seeing as you are very local to me, have you bought struts already?
I might be parting my Saturn out (or sell it as a parts car, less the stereo), as its getting up there in KMs (almost 400K) and with the pending issues, I need to draw the line somewhere.

I also have some other parts new in boxes (EBC brake pads, brake drums, air filter, etc) that might be of interest.

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These are the expensive ones...$45 is "big money"?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OC5QJS/

They're much safer looking on the springs than my 30+ year old home made ones...lol

Oh, Canadian...land of the overpriced everything due to import fees >.<
Heard good things about Wilmar in general, haven't tried these but the reviews sound good... https://www.amazon.ca/Wilmar-W80559-.../dp/B0075CQLV8

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I've got all ya'll beat on compressor price, and safety

100$

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Works flawlessly awesome, absolutely worth it

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There's no way I was going to pay big money for a Strut compressor, so I figured I was going to either buy a JY pair, or a pair of those "assembled units"
until just before Christmas. I found this at Princess Auto (It's like Canada's Harbor Freight) for $16. Yeah Baby. Once it's warm enough, I'm doin' struts!
most autoparts stores will free rent the tool to do the job. Might not be fancy like the one in the picture above but it will get the job done

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