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Old 11-20-2013, 11:51 PM   #1
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Does anyone have a link to a comprehensive list of oil filters that will work for an S series vehicle?

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Old 11-20-2013, 11:54 PM   #2
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Is this one that will work?

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-M1-204-E.../dp/B0034Y4WOE

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Old 11-21-2013, 12:02 AM   #3
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Default Re: Oil Filter Options

This is a good start to cross-reference from.

I don't know about the M1-204, M1-209 will certainly work. The Purolator PL20195 is probably the cheapest/best choice as it is a large filter, very efficient, and can be had for maybe $3.50 on sale.

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Old 11-21-2013, 12:21 AM   #4
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According to Amazon, no. That doesn't necessarily mean it won't, but it does mean that it officially won't. Kind of like the Motorcraft FL400S won't officially work. Except that it unofficially does.

I do know that the Bosch D3330 will work, officially and otherwise; and the Bosch D3422 should work unofficially, as it is the equivalent to the Motorcraft FL400S, which we know works unofficially.

And then there's this site, if you want to build a more exhaustive list:

http://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/

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Old 11-21-2013, 12:39 AM   #5
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Mobil M1-209, Pure One PL20195, WIX 51516XP pick one, all are synthetic media extended size filters.
I have never figured out the attraction to those Motorcraft branded filters. Who is making them this month?

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Old 11-21-2013, 01:34 AM   #6
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I am currently running a FL-400s and after 2500 miles the oil looked pretty darn good on the dipstick. I just changed the oil a few days ago with 2 quarts each, PP 5w-20/PP 5w-30 and just left on the filter due to the short duration of the previous OCI. Definitely made by Purolator by the looks and markings and correspondence with a Purolator representative.

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:09 AM   #7
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Oversize oil filters for S-Series (with pressure relief valve)

Engine oil is 3/4-16 thread pitch.

Oil Filter
* Wix 51516
* NAPA FIL 1516
* Mobil-1: M1-209
* Amsoil: EaO34
* Fram PH3600
* Wal-Mart SuperTech 3600
* Motorcraft FL400A
* Purolator L20195
* PepBoy's Proline PPL-20195
* Mazda Oil Filter (P/N: YF09-14-302A0)
* Motorcraft FL-400-S
* Napa ProSelect SFI 21516
* Hastings LF134
* Donaldson P550400
* Purolator PureOne PL20195
* Purolator Regular L20195
* STP S3600
* Valuecraft V3600
* AC Delco PFL400A
* Royal Purple 20-400
* Bosch Distance Plus Oil Filter D3422
* Bosch Regular 3422

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Old 11-23-2013, 05:46 AM   #8
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^ Nice! That should be a sticky!

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Old 11-23-2013, 03:40 PM   #9
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I copied this info into a word document, saving, and printing one copy for my Saturn repair manual stack.

I always end up looking on Saturn forums with my phone in the store for the right Long filter number.

I best save this as a google doc so I can access it easier with my phone.

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:46 PM   #10
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My other vehicle is a Ford Ranger with a 3.0 motor. It uses the FL400 filters. I noticed several years ago the length of it shrunk. It use to be a "full size" long type filter. Now it is only about the length it use to be.
I switched to the Purolator L20195 my Ranger. Found later that it also fits my Saturn.

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Old 11-24-2013, 02:28 AM   #11
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I can get the Mobil M1-204 extended performance for $5 each in quantity. The gasket and threading match up but the filter is 4 inches in diameter. Will that fit from underneath OK or will I have to take the darned passenger wheel off for access? I would rather just shimmy underneath as usual.

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Old 11-24-2013, 08:00 AM   #12
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The gasket seat may be too large and there is scant room for any increased diameter over the M1-209.

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Old 11-24-2013, 09:56 PM   #13
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I did an oil change today, I put in Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W/30 and a Fram Ultraguard XG3614 filter. The motor sure sounded smooth when I started it up. I've had a bit of a rattle in my driver's door, but it went away after the oil change. Maybe I'll try QSUD again. This is the second change using synthetic, I'm hoping it reduces my oil consumption, which is right at a quart every 1500 miles. Previous oil was Pennzoil Platinum 5W/30 which had about 4500 miles on it.

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Old 11-24-2013, 10:29 PM   #14
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Fatter filter either doesn't work, or the '90s era Taurus I used as the "look up" car utilizes one that's just too fat. I don't remember for sure what got in the way but I believe it was the drip rail and everything else in the vicinity that it's attached to.

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I posted to Mobil Products Questions:

> Suggested Oil Filters for use with M1 EP Saturn S-Series can use over-sized filters: M1-209, PureOne PL20195; Wix 51516XP

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Please contact the Oil Filter Hotline at 1-800-882-0890 for assistance.
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I remember from a few years ago that "bobistheoilguy.com found that for the money and performance the Purolator Pure 1 is the best filter for the money out there. They suggested no one ever use any Fram as they have cardboard in them. (They cut open a lot of filters)

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^^^^+1 As long as you change oil every 4500 miles or less the Pure 1 filter PL20195 is the bargain priced filter.

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:06 PM   #18
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^^^^+1 As long as you change oil every 4500 miles or less the Pure 1 filter PL20195 is the bargain priced filter.
I'm not advertising for them, but to share my own experience --
I have been using Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic oil with the Purolator PureOne PL20195 filters for the last three years. I have been running 7500 miles between changes and I sent in three consecutive changes for testing to Blackstone. They actually said I would be ok with a longer interval, based on the results. That's okay, 7500 is long enough. The SL has 144,200 miles on now. Pretty soon she will be broke in.

I can usually find a case of PL20195 filters at a very good price on either Amazon or eBay. I keep well stocked with them because this filter also fits my wife's new Focus, and my riding lawnmower too (although the pressure relief is higher. No worry, I change it every year and save about $10 over buying the Briggs filter. The extra half quart capacity is a big plus in this application.). Won't fit my Silverado diesel though . . . . .

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The outer limit of the PL20195 and the Mobil 1209 is about 7500 miles then the insolubles will start creping up.

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^^^^+1 As long as you change oil every 4500 miles or less the Pure 1 filter PL20195 is the bargain priced filter.
So with Synthethic Oil, how much longer does the Mobil 1-209 extended filter last compared to the extended Purolator Pure 1 Gold 20195?

I thought the small OEM or Wix filter was good for 4K miles. I was hoping the larger, superior 20195 filter with those extra synthetic filter pleats might last 7500 miles or so. Being lazy, I prefer to use good quality components and spend more time repairing vs. routine maintenance.

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