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Old 08-07-2013, 06:58 AM   #21
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I keep thinking I should get a UOA done but I just keep putting it off. Is Blackstone still a decent lab to use?
1 st time using them and they have fast service. They are THE leading analyzer around.

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Old 08-08-2013, 05:10 AM   #22
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1 st time using them and they have fast service. They are THE leading analyzer around.
Thanks for the info. I have requested a test kit.

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Old 09-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #23
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here is my newest one. i changed my valve cover to the gen 1 aluminum kind maybe 1k into this oil....is that probably the reason for the increased silicon? wanted to go 10k but wasn't sure if i should, guess i will next time
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:47 PM   #24
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i changed my valve cover to the gen 1 aluminum kind maybe 1k into this oil....is that probably the reason for the increased silicon?
If the head was exposed to air for a long time then maybe, also if you were rather messy with the RTV that could cause it too.

FWIW - My rebuilt engine had silicon in the 140 range immediately after the build (second oil, first was changed after 30 minutes and not sampled).

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Old 09-04-2013, 10:18 PM   #25
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If the head was exposed to air for a long time then maybe, also if you were rather messy with the RTV that could cause it too.

FWIW - My rebuilt engine had silicon in the 140 range immediately after the build (second oil, first was changed after 30 minutes and not sampled).
potentially the latter. shawnv changed my valve cover. head probably was exposed to air for say 1 hour(i had to go to advance to get another gasket since they gave me the wrong one)- idk what is considered messy with rtv, but a few of my spark plug tubes had the rtv stuff on it when i changed them to magnacor

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:03 PM   #26
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I wouldn't worry about it, just make sure it goes down next time. An hour is nothing unless your/his garage is really dusty. Probably just squished out RTV causing it.

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:11 PM   #27
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Very little RTV will send it right up. What are you using for an air filter?

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Old 09-05-2013, 12:02 AM   #28
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:29 AM   #29
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Which filter? Dry flow or oiled?

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Old 09-05-2013, 06:36 PM   #30
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Which filter? Dry flow or oiled?
Oh didn't know they had other kinds. I have the dryflow I thought

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OK, you would know if it was oiled. Those dryflow filters are supposed to be washed every s often. You can buy high priced air filter soap or, you can go to the grocery store and buy a bottle of Woolite soap for washing wool items. Basically fill the sink with cold water and 1 cap of Woolite and slosh filter in it until clean, cold rinse and air dry. No heat! If it has been used for a year or so it will be dirty and pass more dirt which shows up in the oil as silicon. Other than that they are great filters.

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Old 09-06-2013, 09:50 PM   #32
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i bought the aem branded cleaner from their website. how often should i use it?

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The AEM dryflow is washed in cold water and Woolite if you are cheap. The filter should be cleaned when it is obviously dirty or annually just because.

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been on my to do list for a month or so. think it's been about a year

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Old 04-21-2014, 09:48 PM   #35
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Very nice results & the Fe is low for a newly rebuilt engine. Si is a bit high, so check the air filter & airways for any leaks. A quality paper filter or Amsoil EAA filter is a good idea, the K&N's let a bit more dirt in the engine.

The legend is nice to add, but it is old as the Zinc & Phosphorous have been reduced from there on passenger car oil. Good general reference.

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This is interesting, There is one oil that I really noticed a difference with engine smoothness and that was with Royal Purple, With the cost of that oil who could afford it though.....

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Very nice results & the Fe is low for a newly rebuilt engine. Si is a bit high, so check the air filter & airways for any leaks. A quality paper filter or Amsoil EAA filter is a good idea, the K&N's let a bit more dirt in the engine.

The legend is nice to add, but it is old as the Zinc & Phosphorous have been reduced from there on passenger car oil. Good general reference.
Funny you should mention the Si, I do run a K&N Filter. Guess I should switch to an Amsoil Ail Filter. This reading was for 10k miles, and using only 1 oil Filter, the Amsoil Ea15k oil filter.

I think I'll get the Amsoil Air Filter and see if the Si numbers are reduced by the next 10 mile mark.

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OldNuc pointed out that the "Universal Averages" that Blackstone uses are based upon a 4k mile oil sample. Since I drove 10K miles, the numbers are a bit skewed when comparing against the "Universal Averages". OldNuc suggested that I divide the Metal Numbers by 2.5 to get a more accurate comparison of numbers against 4k miles.

In doing this, my numbers do drop substantially, which is even better. It should also be noted that I do run a K&N Air Filter. I'll be switching this out to a Wix Filter, which should bring the Si numbers down.

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does oil go bad? i've had an old gatorade bottle full of oil for like 1.5 months now in my back seat. meant to send it, need the bottles they send

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