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Old 02-03-2014, 11:35 AM   #61
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All the utube links don't work, am I doing something wrong?
It's possible that a video has been updated, which means the link is no longer any good.

YouTube probably has a search; or you can use google to search for a particular video. For example, try this search (copy and paste):

richpin06a saturn site:youtube.com

This will find the terms "richpin06a" and "saturn" but limit the search to the site youtube.com

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(the minus sign before ion means the search will not include hits with the word "ion" - different saturn model; this search will find videos by others as well as richpin)

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YouTube does have a search, use richpin06a saturn followed by what you are looking for.

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Old 02-21-2014, 08:01 PM   #63
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Here is the direct link to Richpin's YouTube page... http://www.youtube.com/user/richpin06a

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If your temperature gauge STILL looks this after an ECTS replacement:

Then you need a new thermostat. In addition, double check the connector to make sure it is NOT corroded, and the terminations are SOLDERED AND HEAT SHRINK WRAPPED.

The following pics are the damaged ECTS/TTS:



This is a new ECTS/TTS, side by side with the old one for comparison:


Saturn 96 model year and newer temperature gauge reading vs. actual temperature as read from the ECTS.

GAUGE Reading..........ECTS Temperature..........Event
.....1/4.................................150 F
.....3/8.................................192 F...........T-stat cracks open
.....3/8+................................195 F
.....1/2...............................212 F
.....9/16................................221 F............Fan ON
.....7/16................................210 F............Fan OFF coast to 205 F

(FWIW, some people, specifically on Gen-3 Saturns, have reported that the fan will click on at ~212 degrees F (half line).)[/QUOTE]

So if this is what my Saturn gauge looks like all the time, does that mean I'm running too cold and it's an issue that I should resolve as soon as I can? What should it really be running at temp-wise?

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If your temperature gauge STILL looks this after an ECTS replacement:

Then you need a new thermostat. In addition, double check the connector to make sure it is NOT corroded, and the terminations are SOLDERED AND HEAT SHRINK WRAPPED.
Not true all the time. I had my thermostat replaced and I replaced my ECTS with a brass tipped one. ECTS connector is not corroded. Also the ECTS connector was replaced, soldered and heat shrink wrapped and my gauge reads at a 1/4 but actual coolant temp was taken using a ELM327 OBD2 scanner linked to my iPhone, and the temp is right where it's supposed to be.

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Ginger root in the radiator for minor head gasket leaks? I thought it was pepper.

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Not true all the time. I had my thermostat replaced and I replaced my ECTS with a brass tipped one. ECTS connector is not corroded. Also the ECTS connector was replaced, soldered and heat shrink wrapped and my gauge reads at a 1/4 but actual coolant temp was taken using a ELM327 OBD2 scanner linked to my iPhone, and the temp is right where it's supposed to be.
That's what happens when a chart is posted based on the testing of a single car and the assumption that the single car is the norm. In reality simply variance of the ECTS could move the gauge, as well as changes in operating temp. So at best the chart is a general guide, despite the fear mongering that the gauge MUST read a very specific point when fully warmed.

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That's what happens when a chart is posted based on the testing of a single car and the assumption that the single car is the norm. In reality simply variance of the ECTS could move the gauge, as well as changes in operating temp. So at best the chart is a general guide, despite the fear mongering that the gauge MUST read a very specific point when fully warmed.
I use my phone to monitor gauges and it reads exactly where it's supposed to.

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I use my phone to monitor gauges and it reads exactly where it's supposed to.
And "exactly" is at what temperature?

Both thermostat operation and ECTS resistance ranges are given in ranges, not exacts. So based on the information provided by GM, there is no exact. But that's my point. There are a lot of people chasing some exact, whether it be operating temp or gauge position. It's been proven many times over that they vary car to car regardless, and the closest that can be given is really just a range.

Reported temps through a scanner are nothing other than the exact of what the ECTS reports, but without an exact range given for the ECTS this really does not confirm that the indicated temp is the actual operating temp at all.

And as for thermostats, the factory thermostats and many aftermarket thermostats are all within the specified range, but if within the range none is more to spec than the other really, unless you want to shoot for the middle of the spec at the proper spot. And doing that is just a guess really.

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Fine grind pepper will work also if you want to use it but you need to know how much.

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Old 09-15-2014, 02:09 PM   #73
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[QUOTE=adventureoflink;1850469]***continued from post #1***



20. Throttle Body. I'm sure you've noticed a sticking accelerator (NOT like the Toyotas mind you), slightly less gas mileage, harder to push in the accelerator, idle being funky especially when stopping at stop lights/signs, right? If so, these are the classic signs of needing to give your throttle body and IAC (Idle Air Control) Valve a good scrubdown. Oh yeah, if you start the car, the idle pegs at ~2,000 RPM, and you shut the car down and it goes away, it's time to replace the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). Don't worry, it's also right on the Throttle Body as well.
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This really helped. lol My intake is as bad as the TB was, is there an easy way to clean it?
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Hi, I'm in dire need of assistance my mom gave me a 2001 saturn sc1 1.9 SOHC after she had told me it only needs a new engine because she blew a head and who knows what else was wrong with it. Anyways I ordered and engine from an online source the engine had only 50,000 miles on it for 650$ I thought what a steal free car and cheap engine. I went on to buy new parts for the car to cover the warranty on the engine. Engine showed I swapped it out myself, fired it up and it ran for about five minutes before I noticed it was leaking radiator fluid I shut the car off tightened all the leaks fired it back up and it ran for another ten minutes or so then it died. I started it back up and it idled rough then when I went to give it gas it idled lower decelerated and died I got it to star a few times but same outcome eventually it wouldn't start again. I immediately started troubleshooting and buying parts: fuel filter, fuel pump, ignition coils, ignition module (but I took that back) to the point where I was going broke and wife was starving then decided I need professional assistance since I'm no mechanic anyways I took it to a local shop they ran a diagnostic and got no codes but when they tested my fuel rail with an ohmmeter it was putting out too much they decided that that's regulated by the PCM and I need a new one. So I got my car back and sat on the idea for a few day since it was nothing definite given to me as of what the problem is. So I started messing around with it and I noticed that the security light would not go off but thought nothing of it (because I'm oblivious) and went on to go buy a new PCM swapped it out and for some reason really paid attention to the not going away SECURITY light so I looked up some things and came up with my car was in theft mode I did the bypass relearn and it fired right up for 30 seconds and then died as I tried to give it gas like it did when I first got the engine in. So once again decided I need a pro or two so I took it in to the local Gm dealer and they charged me 240$ to tell me I need a new crankshaft position sensor and connector but you need that before we know anything else. I gave Em their 240$ and bought the parts myself took the car home and did it myself still cranks but won't start I have spent over 1400$ on hanging parts on this car and haven't driven it a mile yet and around 2,050$ total on it please pleas please help I need clarity and a running Saturn sc1

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Lil Red..02, SL2, 124K miles.. wife's daily driver from house to school where she teaches 0.8 miles one way then, now it's a 24 mile drive to new school.

SEL on Lil Red came on....thanks to the advice, AZ for code, yep..upstream O2 sensor. I did the sensor gig and I SUCK at electrical stuff..splicing just ain't in my fortune....while I was under there, decided to change plugs to NGK coppers, change oil...pulled PCM-b fuse to reset computer...also did the ECTS just to make sure. Yep. it was all grody and worn...

My better half took it to the school and came back exclaiming that it seemed to run smoother and the SEL light went out and stayed out.

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wow what a list. I guess I should get started. I just bought a 95 sc2 auto. definitely have the reverse slam issue. so I'll get on that. I love that there are YouTube videos to doing alot of the work bc im going to need them for sure. I'm no mechanic but I'm handy so I should get on this. my temperature gauge is just a hair off the middle on the cold side... do you think this is due to an aftermarket thermostat?

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I'll post a pic when I can get my phone to upload pictures on here.... sorry newbie

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Welcome! Nope, that's about where the temp gauge should be. You have a good thermostat.

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great thanks. I think I'm going to start a new thread to map my journey. maybe it can serve as a helper to someone who isn't a mechanic and wants their saturn to last forever.
I really think I found a gem with this car. I really like the look and the pop up lights. 95 with only 85k and seems to be mechanically sound. nobody seems to understand why I like it so much Haha. glad this forum exists. this will be my second car as a commuter. I'm sure you'll be seeing my name alot on here since I love doing things myself and taking care of my things. I'm an avid member on my other forums so I'll make sure I give this one my attention and keep my sc2 well documented

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Alright, that's just not fair! Here I was thinking I was the low-mileage 95 SC2 champ at 86k and you come along with only 85k. Cheater! Meanie! Evildoer!

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