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Old 01-16-2012, 07:54 PM   #1
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Default Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

I did a search and didn't see this problem with in the first several pages I checked, so I figured I'd try a new thread.

2008 Saturn Aura XE (40k miles), not remote start

My battery died earlier today and has since been charged and is good to go. Everything works fine as far as electronics go except for 2 things - The key fob and TPMS

I hit the unlock on the key fob, nothing. Hit the lock, nothing. Had to unlock it with the old fashion key in key-hole style and lock it with the button on the inside of the door. Also I noticed the Tire Pressure monitors aren't getting a reading. I checked the manual and didn't immediately notice anything about this.

I am guessing it reset because of the battery dying, but not sure if i have to get the fob and TPMS reprogrammed or if there's an easier fix.

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Old 01-17-2012, 01:08 AM   #2
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

It's a known issue. You'll need to have a dealer reflash the remote control door lock receiver/TPMS receiver with the latest update. Then they have to relearn all your fobs & tire pressure sensors. No idea how much it'll cost for labor if you're OOW.


Service Information 2008 Saturn AURA | AURA, BAS Hybrid (VIN Z) Service Manual | Document ID: 2176461
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#08-03-16-001B: Key Fobs Inoperative, TPM System Not Reading Correctly - Dashes on Al Four Tire Readings, DTCs C0775, C0569, B3105 Set, Unable to Program TPM Sensors (Reprogram RCDLR) - (Jul 31, 2008)


Subject: Key Fobs Inoperative, TPM System Not Reading Correctly - Dashes On All Four Tire Readings, DTCs C0775, C0569, B3105 Set, Unable to Program TPM Sensors (Reprogram RCDLR)


Models: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt, HHR, Malibu

2008 Pontiac G5, G6, Solstice

2008 Saturn AURA, SKY




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This bulletin is being revised to update the Important statement to reflect the new direction to no longer contact TCSC. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-03-16-001A (Section 03 - Suspension).


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Condition
Some customers may comment that the key fobs are inoperative or that the TPM system is showing dashes as the reading for all four tires.

Technicians may find DTCs C0775, C0569 and B3105 set simultaneously in the RCDLR module.

In addition, the technicians may find Tire Pressure Monitoring sensors are unable to be programmed to the vehicle by adding or releasing pressure to the tire while the vehicles in the TPM learn mode.

Cause
These conditions may be caused by the following:

The RCDLR may lose its transmitter and tire pressure monitoring data from its memory if a low voltage condition occurs on the vehicle.

The ability for TPM learning by adding or releasing pressure to the tire has been disabled in the RCDLR.

Correction
Reprogram the RCDLR with an updated software calibration to address both issues listed above. This new service calibration is available on TIS2WEB using Service Programming System (SPS). As always, make sure your Tech 2 is updated with the latest software.

Important: If the Tech 2 could not establish communication with the RCDLR AND the programming event ended with error, attempt to reprogram in Service Programming System (SPS) by selecting "Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (TSB 08-03-16-001) with E4399 error -- Pass Thru Only".

Once the RCDLR module has been reflashed with the latest software and calibrations, the following may also be necessary:

Relearn all keyless entry transmitters.

Reconfigure the tire pressure placards and the tire type.

Relearn the tire pressure sensors.

Refer to SI for the procedures to relearn transmitters, placard and tire type configuration and tire pressure sensor learn.

Warranty Information
Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

R4481
Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR), Reprogram with SPS
Use Published Labor Operation Time

Add:
Diagnosis Time
0.0-0.3 hr




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Old 01-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

Alright, thanks!

I'll give my dealer a call and find out (about) how much it'll run me

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Old 01-17-2012, 03:06 PM   #4
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

Is this something that we need to be concerned about when replacing the (car) battery? In other words you could have this problem rather than just losing radio stations when swapping out a battery?
I remember (years ago) seeing a guy at a Sears connect a small (9volt I think) battery to my terminals (I think) while he replaced the battery. Anyone know the correct way to do that without frying anything?

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Old 01-17-2012, 03:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

that would be a great idea so you wouldnt have to reprogram radio, power windows, etc.

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Old 01-17-2012, 05:46 PM   #6
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Is this something that we need to be concerned about when replacing the (car) battery? In other words you could have this problem rather than just losing radio stations when swapping out a battery?
Only if you have one of the vehicles specified in that bulletin & the update has not been done.

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I remember (years ago) seeing a guy at a Sears connect a small (9volt I think) battery to my terminals (I think) while he replaced the battery. Anyone know the correct way to do that without frying anything?
You can buy those 9v gizmos that just plug into a power port:

http://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Settin...6843816&sr=8-5

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Old 01-18-2012, 09:38 AM   #7
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

Thanks for the idea Greenman! I only think of it as I'm swapping out a battery, that it would be good to keep the memory energized. I just ordered one from eBay for $11 with shipping. Now, hopefully I'll remember that I have it when the need arises.

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Old 01-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #8
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Default Re: Key Fob Issue (and TPMS) after Battery drain

What did they call that power saver on ebay? would like to pick one up as well since you lose saved shift points etc. also with battery change.

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Old 01-18-2012, 02:48 PM   #9
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Xraura, in eBay Motors it should be under "car memory saver"

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