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Old 10-06-2011, 04:59 PM   #1
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Had a chance to eyeball what I thought was going to be a 2000, SW2 with seized engine. The owner was not available at the time but has it parked on the street where it died. It turns out to be an LW2 not SW2. Unfortunately, I neglected to verify that it's a 2000.

There is oil on the front of the engine that's run down the front brake, hub and wheel. The car has obvious been neglected. There's no way to know if the trans is any good. It'll need tires very soon, new front brakes, rear tail light crystal, engine (or rebuild), bumpers repainted, gas door replaced or repaired, and seats deep cleaned, tow ($200) and more. I'm not sure it's worth the effort except for the fun of it.

The owner tells me that he got a repair estimate of $1050 for a new engine parts and labor and that the car's book value running is around $3000. Ya, right!

I know nothing about the L's except that the early ones had timing chain issues. When looking underneath my SL seems better built and protected than the LW.

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Old 10-06-2011, 05:44 PM   #2
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Is there a question in there? I'd give him $100 for it, maybe.

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Old 10-06-2011, 06:29 PM   #3
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Whatever the question(s), more meanigful answers can be found here: http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69

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Old 10-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #4
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It is worth whatever the junk yard is paying today for dead cars.

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Old 10-06-2011, 08:34 PM   #5
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Don't forget that L-series were turds overall. Electrical issues, BCM failures, water pumps going bad, timing belts on V6, etc..

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Old 10-06-2011, 08:35 PM   #6
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Sorry everybody, my error. This topic started off on a tangent in another thread and I failed to include previous relating posts. What happened is that I thought I had come across an SW2 with a seized engine for sale. But it turned out to be an LW2, so up to that point this thread was in the right place.

No matter, because the issues being discussed were whether such a project was worth taking on and how to un-seize an engine, to which OldNuc replied the following:

"Usually not real difficult. The big risk is the have to come out the top so do not put a big block of wood on the crown and hammer on it as if it lets go and firs out the bottom the ring will lock it into the cylinder and breaking it up will be required. You have to pull the crank out and drive them out from below.

In very bad cases you pack the inside of the piston with dry ice and alcohol. That will shrink it significantly. It is the lower skirt area that has to be shrunk".

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Old 10-07-2011, 12:39 AM   #7
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Run. Unless you really want the learning experience, want to spend the money, and want a new hobby. And, it isn't an S-Series, so why bother.

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Old 10-07-2011, 09:27 AM   #8
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Thank you all for your advice, my interest waned when it turned out to be an L instead of S. If the L didn't have such a poor reputation, wasn't automatic and a V6 guzzler it would have made an interesting project. I think the typical junkyard value around here is $400-$500 which I'm guessing the owner has probably already resolved himself to getting. Even at that price, a 15 mile tow, fixing or replacing the engine, doing the brakes, replacing tires etc., etc., you end up better off buying something that runs.

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Yep, it is a perfect candidate for the local pick and pull yard.

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