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Old 08-21-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default Can NOT get the drum off the rear brakes

I've been having a really hard time getting the drum off the drum break assembly on a 2001 saturn sl2 sedan. Is there any tricks you guys could give to get it off.

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Old 08-21-2011, 04:20 PM   #2
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have to ask is the e-brake on? aside from that, grab a mallet and hit each opposite top and bottom till it loosens till where you can pull it off.(attempt to hit the lip of the drum on the top and bottoms to break the friction bond.)

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Old 08-21-2011, 04:41 PM   #3
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Everything you can break is cheap to replace, the most expensive being the drum @ $20

The star wheel is pretty much inaccessable so you can't back the shoes off the drum and they usually wear a pretty good ridge into the lip of the drum that you have to force over the shoes.

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Old 08-21-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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A BIG HEAVY f*#%@$! hammer and maybe a disposable small diameter steel shaft or piece of 2x4. The shaft end or 2x4 butt end placed on the lip of the drum so you can swing the BFH against the shaft/2x4 to push the drum off. Rotate the drum 120 degrees to hit again or if it sticks, keep banging until the drum comes off. As the Star Wars line goes, "Use the Force Luke....".

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:03 PM   #5
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All Good ideas but I have still had a hard time after doing them. I was wondering, could I drill a hole in the drum (i am going to replace them anyways) and then tap them. Get a long bolt and then tighten it in there pushing the the bolt against the back of the drum. Do you think this could work?

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:36 PM   #6
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All Good ideas but I have still had a hard time after doing them. I was wondering, could I drill a hole in the drum (i am going to replace them anyways) and then tap them. Get a long bolt and then tighten it in there pushing the the bolt against the back of the drum. Do you think this could work?

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i would try squirting in between the holes on the wheell some penetrating
oil and leave it overnight to soak in then com morning take a sledge
hammer and hit the inside rim as hard as YOU CAN!

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:49 PM   #7
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Are you hitting the drum correctly?
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:54 PM   #8
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All Good ideas but I have still had a hard time after doing them. I was wondering, could I drill a hole in the drum (i am going to replace them anyways) and then tap them. Get a long bolt and then tighten it in there pushing the the bolt against the back of the drum. Do you think this could work?

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Old 08-21-2011, 06:46 PM   #9
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Ok, this may sound bad but did you release the parking brake? This hung me up for a couple minutes when changing over my drums and pads.

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Old 08-21-2011, 06:54 PM   #10
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This wont work. You need to spray some pbblaster/etc into the wheel stud holes, then beat the living hell out of the front of the drums on the edges. Use at least a 20lb sledge. This will release the rust bond between the drum and hub.

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Old 08-21-2011, 08:00 PM   #11
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Default Re: Can NOT get the drum off the rear brakes

I actually had this problem about 3 days ago mine was stuck on after someone drove my 92 with the e brake on, the pad is just stuck in the drum because there's a groove worn into the drum so no matter how much you pull or whatever its not coming off. If yours is like mine and someone built the drum backwards you're not gonna find the star wheel to relieve the pads. The only way you can geet it off is by prying it apart. Don't bend the backpacking plate (at least not too bad to where its beyond repair), use a long screwdriver and hammer it between the drum and hub then pull back on the screwdriver. You might need to do it in 3 different spot to make it evenly come off the wheel studs. Make sure you buy a new hardware kit when you get your new pads because they aren't included.

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Old 08-22-2011, 04:55 AM   #12
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PB Blaster & a Sledge hammer!

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Old 08-22-2011, 09:07 AM   #13
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Default Re: Can NOT get the drum off the rear brakes

This might not work in your case but I've had success in the past (on other than Saturn) putting the wheel on and rocking in it side to side and up and down. Having the wheel on gives you better leverage. But, don't hit the wheel laterally with a hammer unless you want to buy a new one.

You might also try using a torch on the drum. The thermal stress may be enough to crack it.

Finally why not check with the service manager at a GM or brake shop to see what they recommend. Probably a waste of time but you never know.

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Old 08-22-2011, 05:44 PM   #14
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Do you have a big enough puller to fit around the drum? I've done this in the past and it works wonders. PB Blaster it the night before and then take the puller to it the next day. Just keep cranking and eventually something has to give -- the something being the drum.

Not sure if this is recommended or what others think of this approach?

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As you are going to end up replacing everything except the backing plate anyway ti works fine if you have a puller large enough. Works best if you have an impact to drive the puller screw. Be warned that the screw threads rip off the cheap pullers.

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I don't know if it's applicable to Saturn drums, but check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIKjHQ

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Old 11-22-2011, 10:53 PM   #17
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I just got done taking the drums off of a 2001 SL2. What worked for me was to spray around the center hole of the drum to loosen it and 5 minutes with a BFH. I hit everywhere on the drum. To avoid hitting the studs, I put the lug nuts on part way.

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